Where do you see the Flames rebuild at now?

[polak]

Rebuild as an excuse for poor play is no longer okay and the expectation needs to be playoffs but the team still needs some work with all of the obvious holes.

[Bunk]

I think the rebuild is "over" in the sense that we don't really need any more top 10 picks to fill major holes in the lineup like a rebuilding team does. But that doesn't mean they are ready to contend for the Stanley Cup this year, it simply means the young core is more or less set and just needs a year or two to mature and gel into that contender. This team however should be a strong contender to make the playoffs and even do some damage.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

In 2 seasons Dougie and Wotherspoon are 25 years old, Kylington is 21 years old, Hickey, AOM, and Andersson are 22 years old, Brodie is 27 years old, Kulak is 24 years old.

So now it's the Flames that have 8 Gio (in his prime) equivalents

[jaikorven]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

So now it's the Flames that have 8 Gio (in his prime) equivalents

I have come to a personal conclusion on your posts...you literally just like to stir up SH*! It is the only thing that makes sense any more.

The post you quoted and that is your response.

[Gaskal]

Lol, that is some galactic-level "moving the goalposts" from him there.

[ricardodw]

The point that I am making is that the time is now for the Flames.

Waiting 2 years for Hamilton , Bennett, Tkachuk, Jankowski to shine has it's costs... Frolik and Brouwer and especially Gio ( 3 of the core 7) have probably had their peak seasons.

Listing all the young d-men who outside of Brodie and possibly Hamilton have a very low chance of ever playing at the Gio level, sounds like it comes from the Oiler fan base.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

The point that I am making is that the time is now for the Flames.

Waiting 2 years for Hamilton , Bennett, Tkachuk, Jankowski to shine has it's costs... Frolik and Brouwer and especially Gio ( 3 of the core 7) have probably had their peak seasons.

Listing all the young d-men who outside of Brodie and possibly Hamilton have a very low chance of ever playing at the Gio level, sounds like it comes from the Oiler fan base.

Which is why he listed 5 of them and not one.

That's banking on player X and hoping like hell. Good organizations add assets and get them all in the curve.

Then while Brodie and Hamilton become veterans, Giordano loses a step but hopefully one of the 6 or 7 guys being developed is ready to join the top four and eventually the top three.

[djsFlames]

I think Gio will still be a very solid #3 at 34-35 years old. His game isn't really built on speed. More strong passing and lateral movement to hold the blue line. That wrister of his isn't declining in that time either.

What we need on defence is that Regehr-like shutdown d-man to play on the #4 spot and balance out Hamilton/Gio.

[Vinny01]

I believe the team is definitely exiting the phase where they are drafting top 10. Playoffs are not a lock next year but are the expectstion. i believe they hope to be a legit cup contender within 3 years

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

The point that I am making is that the time is now for the Flames.

Waiting 2 years for Hamilton , Bennett, Tkachuk, Jankowski to shine has it's costs... Frolik and Brouwer and especially Gio ( 3 of the core 7) have probably had their peak seasons.

Listing all the young d-men who outside of Brodie and possibly Hamilton have a very low chance of ever playing at the Gio level, sounds like it comes from the Oiler fan base.

Okay, since reading between the lines was never ricardodw's strong suit, I will spell it out in a more concise manner. And by concise I mean elaborate and TLDR-ey.

In 2 seasons:

Mark Giordano is 35 years old

As a 32 year old he played 82 games, and was able to put up a 21G-35A-56P statline. He was functionally Calgary's second-best defensive defenseman, and our best offensive defenseman. His ability to be patient and precise with the puck in the defensive zone is not going to decline if he loses a step in his skating. His ability to produce offensively is not going to decline, he can get pucks through as well as anyone in the NHL not named Karlsson, this is a skill and what makes him elite. What may decline is his ability to match up individually to the Crosbies and McDavids. Barring a catastrophic injury, which could just as likely happen to a younger player, he will continue to be a very effective top four forward, albeit in an increasingly sheltered role.

TJ Brodie is 28 Years old

He was functionally Calgary's best defensive defenseman, and second-best offensive defenseman. In general his style of play is what most consider to be a "#1 Defenseman". At age 28, he it's not improbable to expect a peak at a level comparable to Duncan Keith at the same age. As a player, he can and already does carry the team on his back.

Dougie Hamilton is 25 years old.

In Boston's system, Dougie was able to be a very effective #3 offensive defenseman as a 20, 21 year old. In Calgary's system Dougie was able to be an effective #3 two-way defenseman. These is room to grow. 25 is often considered the beginning of a defenseman's prime years. A prime Dougie Hamilton could easily replace 90% of what Giordano brings outright on the top pair, but even if he doesn't, we're still talking about a top-shelf, 50 point two-way defenseman who can anchor a pair offensively, or if paired with Brodie, provide our own little version of Keith-Seabrook. Simply improving his own game will reduce the need for Giordano to play at a absolute, elite level because he won't cost the team goals against on as many soft seal-outs. We can expect Dougie to get better. He doesn't need to be a #1, just as Giordano doesn't need to be a #1. We have TJ Brodie for that. Or if you pair Brodie with a defensive defenseman ("Our Hjalmarsson"), you can have Dougie and Giordano as your second pair. This was... our first pair to start this season and while both were struggling individually, they were not completely awful together, particularily in the offensive zone where they were simply suffocating the opposition.

Brett Kulak is 24 years old.

If 25 is prime, then 24 is not far off, either. Here we have a player who plays the style of game that Giordano has most often fit best with, a strong-skating, swift puck mover who can recover from failed pinches and suppress scoring chances with an excellent stick. If Brodie is paired with Hamilton, then Giordano can be placed into a second pair role with Kulak. You're protecting Giordano and Kulak from the Crosby and McDavid type elite players, yet as a pair you've got potential for the same in-game flow we got from Gio-Brodie around 2014, or at least the flow Gio-Bouwmeester used to give us. This is not a poor potential middle pair at all.

Jyrki Jokipakka is 27 years old
He is currently tweening between a #5 and a #4 defenseman. Two more years of NHL experience and development, a new coach with a system better suited to his skill set, and it's not crazy to assume he could improve into an effective player that can compensate portions of Mark Giordano's decline. He can kill penalties in lieu of Gio, and he brings Giordano's physical element in breaking up the cycle and preventing zone entries.

Tyler Wotherspoon is 25 years old
Another player who will be entering the prime years of his career, and as the case was with Jokipakka, can replace the elements of Giordano's game that are most likely to decline. He cannot replace Giordano's offensive contributions - but does that mean he needs to? Giordano's offense is not going to fall off the map, because of the nature of the position.

Oliver Kylington is 21 years old
I alluded to Giordano-Kulak as recreating stylistic elements of Giordano-Brodie in a protected role... well this is the same deal, except on overdrive as Kylington is simply more comparable to Brodie from a raw talent stand point. Kylington even as a 21 year old could very well push Mark Giordano to the #4 spot on our depth chart - and that is a good thing. Heck Kylington could push Hamilton out of our depth chart. Whatever upwards trend he does or doesn't take - even being competent as simply a good partner for Giordano with Giordano's experience and details and Kylington's speed/skill is an enticing middle pair. Brouwer's + Frolik's contracts run out just as Kylington's should, so I don't believe we should anticipate too much difficulty retaining the two of Kylington/Brodie in that off season.

Brandon Hickey is 22 years old.
See Jyrki Jokipakka, except now with Kulak's skating.

Adam Ollas-Mattsson is 22 years old.
See Hamilton, except ignore everything I said in that paragraph except for "Brodie's Hjalmarsson". Well I think AOM could be a Hjalmarsson. Which, btw, is a role that would completely replace Giordano's defensive responsibilities in their entirety. But if not, see Jyrki Jokipakka.

Rasmus Andersson is 22 years old
Between Hickey, AOM, Jokipakka, and Wotherspoon, I've named four naturally defensive defensemen. But guys like that still need a natural puck moving partner, and here we have a guy who can not only be that, but even look to replace what small decline Giordano's offense will experience. Even your bottom pair producing offensively is a positive. Not that Andersson should be limited to a bottom pair role. He could well be... Mark Giordano's partner. That would be a physical, smooth, and very offensively potent pair.

Not all these kids will pan out. But no matter which ones do and which ones don't, Giordano will still be a top-shelf top four defenseman in the NHL for what is likely the entirety of his contract. Finding him a suitable partner internally is not going to be difficult, nor is his decline.

Giordano does not need to be our #1B or #2 defenseman in two years. However that also does not preclude him from still being able to play at that high level.

[Plett25]

IMO the rebuild is over. But a rebuild is more like planting a garden than building a house, because the players grow into their roles.

We had a weed infested garden and Feaster rototilled it and bought some seeds.

Treliving bought some more seeds, planted the garden and stole a young plant from the Bruins and transplanted it.

This year, the seeds are bought and planted, everything has sprouted and looks like we'll have a decent harvest in a couple of years. We basically know what the garden will consist of at harvest time. The unknown is how big will the plants grow. We'll have to wait and see.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Okay, since reading between the lines was never ricardodw's strong suit, I will spell it out in a more concise manner. And by concise I mean elaborate and TLDR-ey.

In 2 seasons:

Mark Giordano is 35 years old

As a 32 year old he played 82 games, and was able to put up a 21G-35A-56P statline. He was functionally Calgary's second-best defensive defenseman, and our best offensive defenseman. His ability to be patient and precise with the puck in the defensive zone is not going to decline if he loses a step in his skating. His ability to produce offensively is not going to decline, he can get pucks through as well as anyone in the NHL not named Karlsson, this is a skill and what makes him elite. What may decline is his ability to match up individually to the Crosbies and McDavids. Barring a catastrophic injury, which could just as likely happen to a younger player, he will continue to be a very effective top four forward, albeit in an increasingly sheltered role.

TJ Brodie is 28 Years old

He was functionally Calgary's best defensive defenseman, and second-best offensive defenseman. In general his style of play is what most consider to be a "#1 Defenseman". At age 28, he it's not improbable to expect a peak at a level comparable to Duncan Keith at the same age. As a player, he can and already does carry the team on his back.

Dougie Hamilton is 25 years old.

In Boston's system, Dougie was able to be a very effective #3 offensive defenseman as a 20, 21 year old. In Calgary's system Dougie was able to be an effective #3 two-way defenseman. These is room to grow. 25 is often considered the beginning of a defenseman's prime years. A prime Dougie Hamilton could easily replace 90% of what Giordano brings outright on the top pair, but even if he doesn't, we're still talking about a top-shelf, 50 point two-way defenseman who can anchor a pair offensively, or if paired with Brodie, provide our own little version of Keith-Seabrook. Simply improving his own game will reduce the need for Giordano to play at a absolute, elite level because he won't cost the team goals against on as many soft seal-outs. We can expect Dougie to get better. He doesn't need to be a #1, just as Giordano doesn't need to be a #1. We have TJ Brodie for that. Or if you pair Brodie with a defensive defenseman ("Our Hjalmarsson"), you can have Dougie and Giordano as your second pair. This was... our first pair to start this season and while both were struggling individually, they were not completely awful together, particularily in the offensive zone where they were simply suffocating the opposition.

Brett Kulak is 24 years old.

If 25 is prime, then 24 is not far off, either. Here we have a player who plays the style of game that Giordano has most often fit best with, a strong-skating, swift puck mover who can recover from failed pinches and suppress scoring chances with an excellent stick. If Brodie is paired with Hamilton, then Giordano can be placed into a second pair role with Kulak. You're protecting Giordano and Kulak from the Crosby and McDavid type elite players, yet as a pair you've got potential for the same in-game flow we got from Gio-Brodie around 2014, or at least the flow Gio-Bouwmeester used to give us. This is not a poor potential middle pair at all.

Jyrki Jokipakka is 27 years old
He is currently tweening between a #5 and a #4 defenseman. Two more years of NHL experience and development, a new coach with a system better suited to his skill set, and it's not crazy to assume he could improve into an effective player that can compensate portions of Mark Giordano's decline. He can kill penalties in lieu of Gio, and he brings Giordano's physical element in breaking up the cycle and preventing zone entries.

Tyler Wotherspoon is 25 years old
Another player who will be entering the prime years of his career, and as the case was with Jokipakka, can replace the elements of Giordano's game that are most likely to decline. He cannot replace Giordano's offensive contributions - but does that mean he needs to? Giordano's offense is not going to fall off the map, because of the nature of the position.

Oliver Kylington is 21 years old
I alluded to Giordano-Kulak as recreating stylistic elements of Giordano-Brodie in a protected role... well this is the same deal, except on overdrive as Kylington is simply more comparable to Brodie from a raw talent stand point. Kylington even as a 21 year old could very well push Mark Giordano to the #4 spot on our depth chart - and that is a good thing. Heck Kylington could push Hamilton out of our depth chart. Whatever upwards trend he does or doesn't take - even being competent as simply a good partner for Giordano with Giordano's experience and details and Kylington's speed/skill is an enticing middle pair. Brouwer's + Frolik's contracts run out just as Kylington's should, so I don't believe we should anticipate too much difficulty retaining the two of Kylington/Brodie in that off season.

Brandon Hickey is 22 years old.
See Jyrki Jokipakka, except now with Kulak's skating.

Adam Ollas-Mattsson is 22 years old.
See Hamilton, except ignore everything I said in that paragraph except for "Brodie's Hjalmarsson". Well I think AOM could be a Hjalmarsson. Which, btw, is a role that would completely replace Giordano's defensive responsibilities in their entirety. But if not, see Jyrki Jokipakka.

Rasmus Andersson is 22 years old
Between Hickey, AOM, Jokipakka, and Wotherspoon, I've named four naturally defensive defensemen. But guys like that still need a natural puck moving partner, and here we have a guy who can not only be that, but even look to replace what small decline Giordano's offense will experience. Even your bottom pair producing offensively is a positive. Not that Andersson should be limited to a bottom pair role. He could well be... Mark Giordano's partner. That would be a physical, smooth, and very offensively potent pair.

Not all these kids will pan out. But no matter which ones do and which ones don't, Giordano will still be a top-shelf top four defenseman in the NHL for what is likely the entirety of his contract. Finding him a suitable partner internally is not going to be difficult, nor is his decline.

Giordano does not need to be our #1B or #2 defenseman in two years. However that also does not preclude him from still being able to play at that high level.

You haven't mentioned Fox, and, who knows, maybe Culkin will make it too.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

What we need on defence is that Regehr-like shutdown d-man to play on the #4 spot and balance out Hamilton/Gio.

... I greatly dislike prioritization of style over substance. The Flames do not need "Regehr-like shutdown d-man" we simply need a d-man who engages in shot (and by extension goal) suppression at a suitable level for a top 4 d-man. The style in which they do it is inconsequential.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

You haven't mentioned Fox

In two years Fox will probably be going into his Junior year at Harvard and still be at least two years away from skating full-time in the NHL. He doesn't really fit into a two year projection at the NHL level.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Parallex

In two years Fox will probably be going into his Junior year at Harvard and still be at least two years away from skating full-time in the NHL. He doesn't really fit into a two year projection at the NHL level.

Right. I forgot about the 2 yr. timeline.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Parallex

... I greatly dislike prioritization of style over substance. The Flames do not need "Regehr-like shutdown d-man" we simply need a d-man who engages in shot (and by extension goal) suppression at a suitable level for a top 4 d-man. The style in which they do it is inconsequential.

Okay sure. But a Regehr-like player would sure be ideal, regardless.

No need to get all up in the goo of the semantics.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Okay, since reading between the lines was never ricardodw's strong suit, I will spell it out in a more concise manner. And by concise I mean elaborate and TLDR-ey.

In 2 seasons:

Mark Giordano is 35 years old

As a 32 year old he played 82 games, and was able to put up a 21G-35A-56P statline. He was functionally Calgary's second-best defensive defenseman, and our best offensive defenseman. His ability to be patient and precise with the puck in the defensive zone is not going to decline if he loses a step in his skating. His ability to produce offensively is not going to decline, he can get pucks through as well as anyone in the NHL not named Karlsson, this is a skill and what makes him elite. What may decline is his ability to match up individually to the Crosbies and McDavids. Barring a catastrophic injury, which could just as likely happen to a younger player, he will continue to be a very effective top four forward, albeit in an increasingly sheltered role.

TJ Brodie is 28 Years old

He was functionally Calgary's best defensive defenseman, and second-best offensive defenseman. In general his style of play is what most consider to be a "#1 Defenseman". At age 28, he it's not improbable to expect a peak at a level comparable to Duncan Keith at the same age. As a player, he can and already does carry the team on his back.

Dougie Hamilton is 25 years old.

In Boston's system, Dougie was able to be a very effective #3 offensive defenseman as a 20, 21 year old. In Calgary's system Dougie was able to be an effective #3 two-way defenseman. These is room to grow. 25 is often considered the beginning of a defenseman's prime years. A prime Dougie Hamilton could easily replace 90% of what Giordano brings outright on the top pair, but even if he doesn't, we're still talking about a top-shelf, 50 point two-way defenseman who can anchor a pair offensively, or if paired with Brodie, provide our own little version of Keith-Seabrook. Simply improving his own game will reduce the need for Giordano to play at a absolute, elite level because he won't cost the team goals against on as many soft seal-outs. We can expect Dougie to get better. He doesn't need to be a #1, just as Giordano doesn't need to be a #1. We have TJ Brodie for that. Or if you pair Brodie with a defensive defenseman ("Our Hjalmarsson"), you can have Dougie and Giordano as your second pair. This was... our first pair to start this season and while both were struggling individually, they were not completely awful together, particularily in the offensive zone where they were simply suffocating the opposition.

Brett Kulak is 24 years old.

If 25 is prime, then 24 is not far off, either. Here we have a player who plays the style of game that Giordano has most often fit best with, a strong-skating, swift puck mover who can recover from failed pinches and suppress scoring chances with an excellent stick. If Brodie is paired with Hamilton, then Giordano can be placed into a second pair role with Kulak. You're protecting Giordano and Kulak from the Crosby and McDavid type elite players, yet as a pair you've got potential for the same in-game flow we got from Gio-Brodie around 2014, or at least the flow Gio-Bouwmeester used to give us. This is not a poor potential middle pair at all.

Jyrki Jokipakka is 27 years old
He is currently tweening between a #5 and a #4 defenseman. Two more years of NHL experience and development, a new coach with a system better suited to his skill set, and it's not crazy to assume he could improve into an effective player that can compensate portions of Mark Giordano's decline. He can kill penalties in lieu of Gio, and he brings Giordano's physical element in breaking up the cycle and preventing zone entries.

Tyler Wotherspoon is 25 years old
Another player who will be entering the prime years of his career, and as the case was with Jokipakka, can replace the elements of Giordano's game that are most likely to decline. He cannot replace Giordano's offensive contributions - but does that mean he needs to? Giordano's offense is not going to fall off the map, because of the nature of the position.

Oliver Kylington is 21 years old
I alluded to Giordano-Kulak as recreating stylistic elements of Giordano-Brodie in a protected role... well this is the same deal, except on overdrive as Kylington is simply more comparable to Brodie from a raw talent stand point. Kylington even as a 21 year old could very well push Mark Giordano to the #4 spot on our depth chart - and that is a good thing. Heck Kylington could push Hamilton out of our depth chart. Whatever upwards trend he does or doesn't take - even being competent as simply a good partner for Giordano with Giordano's experience and details and Kylington's speed/skill is an enticing middle pair. Brouwer's + Frolik's contracts run out just as Kylington's should, so I don't believe we should anticipate too much difficulty retaining the two of Kylington/Brodie in that off season.

Brandon Hickey is 22 years old.
See Jyrki Jokipakka, except now with Kulak's skating.

Adam Ollas-Mattsson is 22 years old.
See Hamilton, except ignore everything I said in that paragraph except for "Brodie's Hjalmarsson". Well I think AOM could be a Hjalmarsson. Which, btw, is a role that would completely replace Giordano's defensive responsibilities in their entirety. But if not, see Jyrki Jokipakka.

Rasmus Andersson is 22 years old
Between Hickey, AOM, Jokipakka, and Wotherspoon, I've named four naturally defensive defensemen. But guys like that still need a natural puck moving partner, and here we have a guy who can not only be that, but even look to replace what small decline Giordano's offense will experience. Even your bottom pair producing offensively is a positive. Not that Andersson should be limited to a bottom pair role. He could well be... Mark Giordano's partner. That would be a physical, smooth, and very offensively potent pair.

Not all these kids will pan out. But no matter which ones do and which ones don't, Giordano will still be a top-shelf top four defenseman in the NHL for what is likely the entirety of his contract. Finding him a suitable partner internally is not going to be difficult, nor is his decline.

Giordano does not need to be our #1B or #2 defenseman in two years. However that also does not preclude him from still being able to play at that high level.

Point #1 You could do this with every team's defense prospects....

There are a bunch of 2015 and 2106 1st and 2nd round picks that were picked before Anderssen and Kylington and Fox that the same evaluation would be done by someone with their teams homer glasses.


Point #2 You are basically saying that the Flames made a huge mistake in Gio's and Hamilton's contracts... in 2 years there is a chance that we have a bottom pairing defense of Gio-Hamilton with a cap hit of 12.5M

This is based on Kylington skipping a grade as 16 year old in Sweden and then having a lackluster next 2 seasons. I am pretty certain that his 12 pt AHL -15 season has not put him on the fast track of anyone else's organization rating.

[EVERLAST]

I would question what the coaching staff thinks?

If the coaches think this I think we are dead.

We have good players here , in Stockton and Adirondack. The cupboards are full.

I hope the days of sheltering players are done. These kids have to play . Vets don't draw more time no matter what ....this is what the last 3 coaches did preferably and where did it get us.?

I'd say we have had more success with throwing young players into situations no one expected....even if only small sample sizes.

Starting with Monahan. Is Tkachuk next ? Bennett if not hurt would in my mind have forced them to keep him up.

The only thing I see as beneficial going forward is the whole meritocracy thing Hartley preached.

All these player's Want to play . Here ...in the AHL and ECHL and heck maybe some who ca make the jump from Junior.

Sorry for jumping g all over the place with my post but I haven't been this excited for a long time.

I remember watching a young Gary Roberts, Joe Niewendyk, Theo Fleury , Gary Suter, AL MacInnis, Jarome Iginla, Matthew Lombardi, Marty St Louis and thinking wow....these guys are Calgary Flames.

I think these guys forced themselves onto the ice....didn't really get sheltered all that much even on vet heavy teams. ....even tho I know someone will prove me wrong with stats.

Oh well , just excited.

[jaikorven]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Point #1 You could do this with every team's defense prospects....

There are a bunch of 2015 and 2106 1st and 2nd round picks that were picked before Anderssen and Kylington and Fox that the same evaluation would be done by someone with their teams homer glasses.


Point #2 You are basically saying that the Flames made a huge mistake in Gio's and Hamilton's contracts... in 2 years there is a chance that we have a bottom pairing defense of Gio-Hamilton with a cap hit of 12.5M

This is based on Kylington skipping a grade as 16 year old in Sweden and then having a lackluster next 2 seasons. I am pretty certain that his 12 pt AHL -15 season has not put him on the fast track of anyone else's organization rating.

Point #1 was for your benefit...you were not catching on.
Point #2 have you never seen that when a player is replaced and/or gets over taken internally due to any number of reasons, including regression...you make moves??

[bigrangy]

Looking around the league and seeing what good teams have, it seems wrong to say the Flames do not have the talent to compete and go deep in the playoffs. They have a solid, solid top line, they should have a great second line, and Backlund makes any third line one of the best. Their 4th line players are probably closer to league basement than league average, which is a serious problem, but should be easy enough to fix.

The defense should be stacked, with two elite top pairing d-men and Hamilton knocking on the door. The bottom half of the defense (as with most other good teams) is done by committee, with Kevin, Spoon, and others being able to step into the top 4 and not drown immediately.

The goalie situation should be remedied, with Elliott being one of the best goalies in the league (statistically) and Johnson supposedly being (and is paid like) an above average backup.

The x-factor will be the coaching and how everyone fits together. There is enough talent on this roster to at least make a push for the playoffs. Management knows this, and I imagine they're wanting to contend as early as this year. I don't think the Flames are quite ready to start selling futures for presents, but the time of accumulating assets, being sellers at the deadline, and hoping the team loses out in its last ten games should be over. The Flames must learn to walk this year so that they can be ready for a few years worth of marathons. The Flames have been too bad for too long to rush what has so far been an excellent rebuild. All the pieces are in place (hopefully), it should just be a matter of fitting them in.