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Old 07-01-2016, 02:32 PM   #481
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Based on the structure of Erikkson and Okposo's deals, I wonder how much Brouwer gets in signing bonuses over this deal, if any?
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:32 PM   #482
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Gaudreau - Monahan - Brouwer
Shinkaruk - Backlund - Frolik
Tkachuk - Bennett - Chiasson
Bouma - Stajan - Ferland
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Giordano - Brodie
Wideman - Hamilton
Engelland - Jokipakka
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:33 PM   #483
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This is what Erratik had in the other thread:

Here is what I envision:

Gaudreau / Monahan / Brouwer
Ferland / Backlund / Frolik
Tkachuk / Bennett / Chiasson
Bouma / Stajan / Hathaway

Giordano / Brodie
Jokipakka / Hamilton
Naladal / Engelland

Elliot / Johnson
Maybe it is just me but I dont see Ferland being an effective NHL player. I do not see him amounting to anything much. I hope I am dead wrong in that opinion.
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:34 PM   #484
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Maybe it is just me but I dont see Ferland being an effective NHL player. I do not see him amounting to anything much. I hope I am dead wrong in that opinion.
Considering you (like others with this view point) are basing it off his 24-year old rookie season, I'd say it's extremely premature.
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:36 PM   #485
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Considering you (like others with this view point) are basing it off his 24-year old rookie season, I'd say it's extremely premature.
Most likely. I do see him being a good 4th line player, a passable 3rd line player and that is about it. Would not be comfortable slotting him in on the 2nd line. Hopefully he will develop into something more. Definitely too early to say.
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:39 PM   #486
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Maybe it is just me but I dont see Ferland being an effective NHL player. I do not see him amounting to anything much. I hope I am dead wrong in that opinion.
It's possible, and I would love for Shinkaruk to take that spot and move Ferland down the lineup, but he is decent enough. Also, the more I think about it, the more I believe Tkachuk makes the team right away.
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Most likely. I do see him being a good 4th line player, a passable 3rd line player and that is about it. Would not be comfortable slotting him in on the 2nd line. Hopefully he will develop into something more. Definitely too early to say.
The Bennett line could easily become the 2nd line if both kids progress as expected.
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:41 PM   #488
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http://flamesnation.ca/2016/7/1/why-...for-the-flames

Well Flames Nation just put Brouwer on blast.
I came to the same conclusion as the Flamesnation article from a cap angle rather than a Brouwer impact angle that the Flames were tired of rebuilding and are going for a playoff run now.

It seems like figured after the playoff series win that the pieces were in place.... adding Hamilton and Frolik and getting Gio back should have pushed the flames up the ladder last year.. Now Brouwer is an add in for the playoff push and run.

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Old 07-01-2016, 02:43 PM   #489
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Yeap. Flames are tired of rebuilding.

That's why they traded 6th overall for Brouwer and went to the draft with a pick deficit.

Amirite?
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Yeap. Flames are tired of rebuilding.

That's why they traded 6th overall for Brouwer and went to the draft with a pick deficit.

Amirite?
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:47 PM   #491
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????????????
Is this your reaction to just hearing Lee Stempniak got signed today?

It. Happened.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:00 PM   #492
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It's possible, and I would love for Shinkaruk to take that spot and move Ferland down the lineup, but he is decent enough. Also, the more I think about it, the more I believe Tkachuk makes the team right away.
I agree, I feel Shinkaruk has more potential and Ferland would be better suited and more effective on a 4th line energy role and standing in front of the goalie on the PP.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:04 PM   #493
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Troy Brouwer also likes puppies. So there's that.

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Old 07-01-2016, 03:18 PM   #494
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If we get some secondary scoring, good goaltender we are going to make the playoffs
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:19 PM   #495
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If we get some secondary scoring, good goaltender we are going to make the playoffs
Agreed.

I also like Lebrun's take on the Flames prior to the draft:

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Once the Flames get their goalie, I like that team so much. Playoff-bound for sure next year in my opinion
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Agreed.

I also like Lebrun's take on the Flames prior to the draft:

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Once the Flames get their goalie, I like that team so much. Playoff-bound for sure next year in my opinion
If the coaching hire was spot on this team should be playoff bound next season.

Treliving has crushed the biggest weaknesses the roster had without question IMO.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:27 PM   #497
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These stat only arguments are getting real old. No replacement for watching Brouwer and making up your own mind on how he plays. It's called scouting, it's the primary tool NHL teams use to evaluate players. Stat arguments pale in comparison to the value of actually watching players.

HERO charts are a cheap and weak replacement for scouting. Watching players is still by far the best and most important way to evaluate them.
Of course watching players is the best, most important way to evaluate them.
But the fancy stats tell us pretty much everyone on the Flames who 'we' think is good, from watching them, is good. And those stats show players less good as less good. Not 100%, but almost.
So here's hoping the fancy stats that show Brouwer as pretty meh are one of the instances where they are wrong about the player.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:39 PM   #498
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:49 PM   #499
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I don't like this signing. 4.5 for a career high 43 points on the wrong side of 30.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:52 PM   #500
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The Flames basically upgraded Colborne with a legit high quality 2nd/3rd line RW that has jam to his game.

Now the important this is to replace Hudler...
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