06-30-2016, 03:52 PM
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#181
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Burying him in the minors also takes a spot away from a developing prospect, something that may have been a factor as well
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I have a hard time believing that was a legitimate factor.
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06-30-2016, 03:53 PM
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#182
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I have a hard time believing that was a legitimate factor.
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Why??
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06-30-2016, 03:54 PM
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#183
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Originally Posted by Karl
Why??
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The sheer amount of RFAs, mostly AHLers, who didn't recieve a qualifying offer.
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06-30-2016, 03:57 PM
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#184
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Originally Posted by Gaskal
The sheer amount of RFAs, mostly AHLers, who didn't recieve a qualifying offer.
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Who were also taking up valuable development spots in the AHL.
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06-30-2016, 03:58 PM
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#185
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaskal
The sheer amount of RFAs, mostly AHLers, who didn't recieve a qualifying offer.
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But those guys aren't really considered promising prospects or high-end potential prospects and are basically significant longshots to make the NHL.
Last edited by Karl; 06-30-2016 at 04:00 PM.
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06-30-2016, 04:33 PM
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#187
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I have a hard time believing that was a legitimate factor.
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Have to agree here. Raymond was both effective in the AHL, and brought a good attitude. Treliving was stating that they will be looking at signing guys to fill holes in the AHL as well. Would make sense to just to keep an already signed Raymond who was doing well down there.
The cap being a factor is what makes the most sense. I am sure that Treliving has something up his sleeve and is making the cap room for it.
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06-30-2016, 06:49 PM
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#188
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fort McMurray, AB
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I don't like to see anyone's career go this way, but I'm glad the Flames have made the decision. Wish him the best of luck.
I would be the worst general manager ever with far too much emotion involved to make a hockey decision that had to be made!
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06-30-2016, 08:31 PM
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Can we hero chart this thread please?
I'd like to see where Raymond stacked up vs. Bollig/Bouma/Stajan.
Thanks
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07-01-2016, 04:30 AM
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#190
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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So do the Flames come out of this buyout saving about a million bucks in actual money?
With the way the CDN$ is these days & the economy struggling as it is the owners may have been happy to save a bit of real coin.
Raymond & Wideman are solid reminders to Treliving of the pitfalls of chucking loads of salary at average UFAs.
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07-01-2016, 06:53 AM
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#191
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlameZilla
So do the Flames come out of this buyout saving about a million bucks in actual money?
With the way the CDN$ is these days & the economy struggling as it is the owners may have been happy to save a bit of real coin.
Raymond & Wideman are solid reminders to Treliving of the pitfalls of chucking loads of salary at average UFAs.
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Yeah, they save $1.05 million in real dollars. Plus, they save $1.15 million in cap hit for this season if he had been buried in the AHL again. The downside is the addition of $1.05 million in cap hit for 2017-18.
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07-01-2016, 06:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Yeah, they save $1.05 million in real dollars. Plus, they save $1.15 million in cap hit for this season if he had been buried in the AHL again. The downside is the addition of $1.05 million in cap hit for 2017-18.
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IIRC 2017-18 is far more manageable though.
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07-01-2016, 06:59 AM
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#193
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
IIRC 2017-18 is far more manageable though.
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Yes, Wideman, Smid, and Engelland are all off the books.
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07-01-2016, 08:39 AM
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#194
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Originally Posted by Karl
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Every AHL team has a few veterans to mentor and help win a few games. Raymond is gone solely because of the real $ savings to the Flames IMO. The cap savings is minimal considering it moves money into next year. In fact, I would argue the overall cap effect is negative vs. burying in the minors.
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07-01-2016, 08:46 AM
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I wish I could buyout this thread so it would go away !
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07-04-2016, 01:16 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Sounds like he will get a NHL deal
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Bought out last week by the Flames, Mason Raymond is close to signing with a new team in the NHL.
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07-04-2016, 01:21 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2015
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Raymond signed before Hudler and Russell.
Unbelievable.
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07-04-2016, 01:23 PM
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#198
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Sounds like he will get a NHL deal
NEWS 1130 Sports @NEWS1130Sports
Bought out last week by the Flames, Mason Raymond is close to signing with a new team in the NHL.
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Really? I like Raymond but I find that very difficult to believe. He wasnt even a standout AHLer.
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07-04-2016, 01:25 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Really? I like Raymond but I find that very difficult to believe. He wasnt even a standout AHLer.
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Setoguchi got signed by the Flames well after being awful. Whoever signs Raymond will be saying the same stuff we said about Setoguchi "Low risk, maybe he finds his game and scored 20! If not waive him and forget about it"
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07-04-2016, 01:28 PM
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#200
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what are the teams expectign to be crap/tankiing and needing to get to the salary floor?
plenty of 1 year pto options out there this year.
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