RFA Qualifiying 5:00 pm

[FBI]

Think none of us would have guessed that few lol

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Wotherspoon, Arnold and Agostino have ZERO chance of not being qualified.

You sure bout that?

[calgaryblood]

What a shocker...Colborne wasn't qualified.

[Boreal]

Unqualified players can't sign with any other team until July 1.

[Red Menace]

Are they really letting Arnold, Agostino and Shore walk?

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

You sure bout that?

I was until I read this page of the thread!

I don't get it.

[Moneyhands23]

Arnold I thought would stay on...

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah I kind of get the Colborne, Ortio, and Jooris cases because of the arbitration case risk.

Don't really get the Agostino or Arnold ones - we still need farm players and those guys don't have arb. cases. Not sure why we wouldn't just qualify them.

Especially Agostino - led our AHL team each of the last two seasons. Plays a decent 200ft game, seems like a decent guy to have around as a call up.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

I can't imagine there being an unqualified former RFA who produced more than Joe Colborne's 44 points last season.

I'd be fine with moving on from Colborne, but still surprised they didn't qualify him simply to move him.

Other teams don't want to give up anything worthwhile just to get trapped into overpaying for a bottom 6 winger.

[MoreDrank]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

I can't imagine there being an unqualified former RFA who produced more than Joe Colborne's 44 points last season.

I'd be fine with moving on from Colborne, but still surprised they didn't qualify him simply to move him.

Who is going to want that arb case?

[DJones]

Originally Posted by MoreDrank

Who is going to want that arb case?

Yep, legitimate chance he'd get 3.5-4.0 million at arbitration.

He'll be signed for 2.75 hopefully

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by DJones

Yep, legitimate chance he'd get 3.5-4.0 million at arbitration.

He'll be signed for 2.75 hopefully

I would rather they take that 2.75 and put it towards a legit top 6 winger. No more bottom 6ers making 2m+, we are plum full.

[Red Menace]

Originally Posted by Red Menace

Are they really letting Arnold, Agostino and Shore walk?

I mean, I didn't really think any of these guys had a shot at the NHL, but all seemed to be good AHL pros....
We will just need to replace them with similar type guys anyway....

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Being of the opinion that we should qualify Colborne is fair. Suggesting that not qualifying him is "stupid" isn't.

Burke has made it clear that they will not overpay for Colborne. The only way to maintain control over that is to not qualify him. The second you qualify him you are allowing him to go to arbitration and if the ruling is under 2.9 million the Flames are not able to walk away.

Not qualifying him does not mean losing him for nothing. It means you can now negotiate without the threat of arbitration and hopefully sign him to a contract you are comfortable with.

This comes down to how much the Flames value Colborne. If they think he is going to be awarded more then they are willing to pay their only option is to not qualify him. Which makes it a reasonable option.

I guess the question wasn't as stupid as some made it out to be.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Red Menace

Are they really letting Arnold, Agostino and Shore walk?

None of them looked like NHLers or even future NHLers. They would have been good depth for the farm but I'm fine having with them giving the ice time to legitimate prospects like Jankowski, Poirier, Pribyl, Mangiapane, Klimchuk, etc.

[Monahan For Mayor]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Yes he is a second liner on every team in the NHL.

Some contenders would even have him as a first line player. I'm not sure where this notion that every player on the top two lines have to put up 70+ points comes from. Colborne would have been no worse than 5th in scoring on all the top teams in the NHL including the champion Penguins.

Wrong. He had one season at the age of 26 where he finally put up some points. He was being handed PP time like candy, and many games with Gaudreau/Mony or a Lights out Backlund. Before the past season he couldn't even put up 30 points or over 10 goals. One year that goes perfect for him doesn't make him a second liner. Never mind a first liner on a contending team!

The flames didn't even qualify him because they don't want to pay him any more then 3mill. That doesn't sound like a true top 6 to me.

[codynw]

Bruins didn't qualify Connolly. Could he be worth a look on July 1? Just turned 24 years old, right shot, former 6th overall pick.

[Stay Golden]

Moved.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by codynw

Bruins didn't qualify Connolly. Could he be worth a look on July 1? Just turned 24 years old, right shot, former 6th overall pick.

I did a quick comparison between he and Jooris and he would be a slight upgrade.

I feel he and Chiasson would be in a similar situation where they could both be top 6 re under the right situation.

Does he have that drive though.

[Roof-Daddy]

It'd be interesting to know what offers BT had for Shore at the 2016 trade dead line.

I remember him saying they had significant interest at that time.

Oh well. Probably nothing major I suppose. Probably just a pick or something.