05-09-2016, 09:56 AM
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#361
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Golly gee willickers isn't this a kick in the pants? I'll tell you what I'm literally shaking with rage right now. Why did Burke even bother hiring a GM if it's this obvious he's the one running the show? He's an insidious puppet master who's taken all of us for a ride and I for one say this farcical "President of Hockey Operations" title needs to go as he's revealing himself to be nothing short of the Commandant of All Things Flames.
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05-09-2016, 09:57 AM
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#362
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Who's interviewing him??? Did he go over to the world's or is he getting lunch with Conroy and Burke?
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05-09-2016, 09:58 AM
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#363
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Vancouver, B.C.
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I have a feeling we end up with Kevin Deneen. I'm glad we're looking everywhere and leaving no stoned unturned trying to find a coach that can lead us to the promise land, even if it means giving Carlyle an interview.
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05-09-2016, 10:04 AM
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#364
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
Golly gee willickers isn't this a kick in the pants? I'll tell you what I'm literally shaking with rage right now. Why did Burke even bother hiring a GM if it's this obvious he's the one running the show? He's an insidious puppet master who's taken all of us for a ride and I for one say this farcical "President of Hockey Operations" title needs to go as he's revealing himself to be nothing short of the Commandant of All Things Flames.
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That's what "President of Hockey Operations" means. He's the president of the operations of hockey within the Calgary Flames organization....
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05-09-2016, 10:07 AM
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#365
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyC
That's what "President of Hockey Operations" means. He's the president of the operations of hockey within the Calgary Flames organization....
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Whaaat? I have no grasp of how an org chart works and all I know is that if something bad might happen maybe then it was Burke and if something good happens that was Treliving acting independently of Burke.
Something bad might happen, man. Something bad. Like hiring a coach I think is bad. And that's bad. So Burke needs to be held accountable now before his inevitable reign of terror destroys the entire team.
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05-09-2016, 10:09 AM
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#366
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Is Treliving here or is he at the World Championships? I also read the Dreger tweet as Carlyle will be interviewed at some point, not necessarily today.
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05-09-2016, 10:17 AM
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#367
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Franchise Player
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Just curious. Many of us are assuming BT will leave no stone unturned, laborious search, interview multiple candidates etc.
Has any other interview been leaked besides Carlyle? Was Boudreau interviewed?
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05-09-2016, 10:18 AM
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#368
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
The only info we have to go on is that Carlyle is interviewing for the position today and has worked for the POHO twice in the past. Anyone can spin what they want, those are the facts and your spin didn't alleviate any of my concerns
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We don't even have that much.
According to the article:
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Originally Posted by Dustin L. Nelson
"the Calgary Flames should be looking to move quickly (unless they think Darryl Sutter may become available). To that end, the Flames are expected to interview former Toronto Maple Leafs coach Randy Carlyle on Monday, reports TSN’s Darren Dreger."
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What did Darren Dreger actually "report"?
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Originally Posted by Darren Dreger
"The Flames are expected to zero in focus on coaching search on Monday. Randy Carlyle will be among those interviewed."
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Notice he did not say that Carlyle would be interviewed today, only that the search was expected to begin today. Notice also that there have been no reports from any sources close to the Flames, nor from any potential candidates. Dreger looks like he is just putting two-and-two together, and connecting dots between B. Burke and Carlyle, but without any actual information to support his expectations.
I continue to believe that NOBODY outside of the Saddledome has the faintest god-damned clue about what the Flames are doing, and everyone inside the Saddledome is locked down.
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05-09-2016, 10:18 AM
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#369
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Is Treliving here or is he at the World Championships? I also read the Dreger tweet as Carlyle will be interviewed at some point, not necessarily today.
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Treliving is in Russia for the WC's. At least that's the last I heard.
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05-09-2016, 10:20 AM
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#370
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Just curious. Many of us are assuming BT will leave no stone unturned, laborious search, interview multiple candidates etc.
Has any other interview been leaked besides Carlyle? Was Boudreau interviewed?
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Up to this point, nothing has been leaked. NOTHING.
Virtually every "report" about the Flames' current coaching search has been the product of educated guesses by hockey observers who feel the need to deliver something. This is just like what happened when Burke was conducting his GM search, and like then, I don't expect anything to be revealed until mere hours or a day before the new coach is hired.
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05-09-2016, 10:51 AM
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#371
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by activeStick
Haha such a silly jump to conclusions... laughable.
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I said if he is the hire as I believe if Carlyle actually interviews its a Burke suggestion just to get some practice for Treliving. Carlyle is as close as you can get to Hartley's poor possession hockey so hiring him would be a complete 180 on everything he said regarding the reasons Hartley was let go. I simply can't imagine how Treliving could hire him unless Burke highly influenced it and I'm not one of those guys that's paranoid about Burke. It's just being realistic about the situation.
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05-09-2016, 11:14 AM
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#372
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Up to this point, nothing has been leaked. NOTHING.
Virtually every "report" about the Flames' current coaching search has been the product of educated guesses by hockey observers who feel the need to deliver something. This is just like what happened when Burke was conducting his GM search, and like then, I don't expect anything to be revealed until mere hours or a day before the new coach is hired.
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And Burke actually interviewed only one candidate for GM, Treliving.
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05-09-2016, 11:20 AM
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#373
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I said if he is the hire as I believe if Carlyle actually interviews its a Burke suggestion just to get some practice for Treliving. Carlyle is as close as you can get to Hartley's poor possession hockey so hiring him would be a complete 180 on everything he said regarding the reasons Hartley was let go. I simply can't imagine how Treliving could hire him unless Burke highly influenced it and I'm not one of those guys that's paranoid about Burke. It's just being realistic about the situation.
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If he's not a real candidate - I'd guess its more of a favour to Carlyle than for Treliving to practice. Get Carlyle's name back out there as a candidate.
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05-09-2016, 11:22 AM
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#374
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Calgary
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I willing to bet some of the guys would be willing to fly to Russia for the interview
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05-09-2016, 11:23 AM
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#375
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I would be shocked if Treliving didn't already know who he wants for the role. He will interview others of course for due diligence, but I don't think he would make a vacancy and be out of the country right afterwards if he wasn't confident that who he wanted would sign on the dotted line.
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05-09-2016, 11:35 AM
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#376
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Franchise Player
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Burke spends all his time doing q and a sessions for corporate luncheons. He's done nothing meddlesome since he's been here.
But he's going to choose this moment to force Treliving to hire the guy who won a championship when he could throw prime Chris Pronger and Scott Niedermayer out for 30 minutes apiece.
I don't think so
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05-09-2016, 11:36 AM
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#377
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Burke hired him 4 years ago and it didn't work out all that well.
More importantly, Burke is not the GM. If he wanted to be the GM he could be. But he didn't, he hired Treliving.
Treliving will choose his coach.
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He's the president of hockey ops and like i already said, if he didnt like him, there wouldnt even be an interview. I'm not saying treliving wont make his own decision but you cant dispute the fact that burke had input on at least giving carlyle an interview.
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05-09-2016, 11:40 AM
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#378
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Burke has hired Carlyle three times before, no?
- Vancouver (to coach AHL Moose)
- Anaheim
- Toronto
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05-09-2016, 11:41 AM
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#379
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesNation23
He's the president of hockey ops and like i already said, if he didnt like him, there wouldnt even be an interview. I'm not saying treliving wont make his own decision but you cant dispute the fact that burke had input on at least giving carlyle an interview.
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Much the same: you can't dispute the fact that Treliving might choose to decline Burke's suggestion. You can't dispute the fact that we have no clear indication at all that any interviews have even taken place.
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05-09-2016, 11:42 AM
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#380
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey Fan #751
Burke has hired Carlyle three times before, no?
- Vancouver (to coach AHL Moose)
- Anaheim
- Toronto
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Yes.
But Burke is not the one who will be hiring the next coach of the Calgary Flames.
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