What Are Your Picks For 5 Major Offseason Move By Flames

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Yawn. Go cheer for the Oilers then you clown. You'd fit right in with their fanbase, clueless and over reliant on pointless stat arguments.

Are you seriously suggesting we shouldn't lock up Gaudreau and Monahan? GTFO you troll. This filth shouldn't be allowed to pollute perfectly good threads. Do you even know how to address the topic at hand? What a joke.

So I take it to be that in your prototypical Oiler Fanboy style you are saying that the current Flame core is in the top 4 in the league and needs to be locked down.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

So I take it to be that in your prototypical Oiler Fanboy style you are saying that the current Flame core is in the top 4 in the league and needs to be locked down.

Flames have one of the better young cores in the league, IMO yes. If you don't agree feel free to cheer for another team and plague their fanbase with your endless nonsense.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Flames have one of the better young cores in the league, IMO yes. If you don't agree feel free to cheer for another team and plague their fanbase with your endless nonsense.

I'm not sticking up for Ricardo, but to say "if you don't agree with me that the Flames have one of the better young cores in the league, then feel free to cheer for another team..." is a bit over the top.

Some people may not agree with you, however it doesn't make them any less of a Flames fan than you.

[jg13]

HC: D Sutter
6th overall: Trade for Jonathan Drouin
starting goalie: Brian Elliott
biggest roster player trade: Dennis Wideman
buyout: Stajan (Sign Grant)

[Wolfman]

HC: Sutter/Huska
6th: Nylander
Goalie: Fleury/Andersen
Trade: Wideman
Buyout: Bollig

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Flames have one of the better young cores in the league, IMO yes. If you don't agree feel free to cheer for another team and plague their fanbase with your endless nonsense.

What kind of mealy mouthed weak fanboy you turned out to be Flames have one of the better young cores in the league Who can't agree with that. so do the Leafs, Jets, Oilers, Sabres and Panthers

That wasn't the question at all. Are they the best in the league? : Crosby-Malkin-Kessell-Letang, Toews-kane-Seabrook-Keith... because that is the standard that the Flames are paying to if they spend the expected 13M/yr on Monahan/Gaudreau

If they are not the best why are the Flames paying them as though they are the best?

What is it? Are you really a Flames fan or not?

[burnitdown]

HC - Mike Yeo
6th pick - Dubois
Goalie - Frederik Andersen
Player Trade - Ferland
Buy Out - Raymond

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

I'm not sticking up for Ricardo, but to say "if you don't agree with me that the Flames have one of the better young cores in the league, then feel free to cheer for another team..." is a bit over the top.

Some people may not agree with you, however it doesn't make them any less of a Flames fan than you.

Agreed. I think I worded it poorly due to frustration.

Is ricardodw really a fan of the Flames though? All he does is troll us with Bouwmeester nonsense, Stempniak nonsense, Hamilton nonsense and now he's going to troll us that we shouldn't be extending Gaudreau and Monahan because they aren't proven winners? Has he ever posted anything positive about the Flames or just bizarre criticism? He's now suggesting our core is similar to the Oilers core of several years back? How much more obvious does trolling get? I mean he does it indirectly, it's quite clever but the trolling is real.

I see very little evidence of fandom and excessive evidence of trolldom. It gets tired. It gets old. It gets annoying. It takes away from legitimate discussion when he posts his off topic drivel in perfectly good threads. I'm sick of it and I know I'm not the only one. I sincerely wish he'd go "cheer" for a different team and plague some other fan base with his inane rambling nonsense.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

What kind of mealy mouthed weak fanboy you turned out to be Flames have one of the better young cores in the league Who can't agree with that. so do the Leafs, Jets, Oilers, Sabres and Panthers

LOL. So you think the Flames have one of the better young cores in the league but you don't wanna lock them up. You're failing to make sense. YET AGAIN.

Originally Posted by ricardodw

That wasn't the question at all.

You're right! The questions was

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

Head coach: who will motivate this team and also help develop these raw talents

6th overall selection: need another key to add to core, we likely wont draft this high again this decade.

UFA/RFA number 1 goalie: essential to be playoff contender now.

Biggest trade of roster player: Players on farm becoming waiver eligible this year so need to make some room by moving at least one current roster player.

Buyout: yes/no and if yes who? Might create some breathing room this year for salary cap since close to ceiling.

And you failed to stay on topic for the millionth time. It was a simple question. To which you responded with some drivel about how locking up the Oilers core was a mistake and we should be wary of our locking up our own.

Originally Posted by ricardodw

That wasn't the question at all. Are they the best in the league? : Crosby-Malkin-Kessell-Letang, Toews-kane-Seabrook-Keith... because that is the standard that the Flames are paying to if they spend the expected 13M/yr on Monahan/Gaudreau

If they are not the best why are the Flames paying them as though they are the best?

Holy cow. No one asked if the Flames core was the best in the league. You invented that. And paying Gaudreau/Monahan 6.5 each wouldn't mean they are either. How dense can you be?

Originally Posted by ricardodw

What is it? Are you really a Flames fan or not?

Pretty clear from my posting history that I am. Pretty clear from your posting history that you make no sense. It's impossible to have legitimate discussion with someone who literally makes no sense.

Ricardodw: Hey guys the sun orbits Venus. Hey guys the sky is green

Everyone else: WTF are you even talking about?

[getbak]

• HC: I think it will be like Treliving/Burke with a young head coach and a mentor -- Green as HC with Carlyle as the AC.
• Draft: I think the 4/5 picks will go either Dubois/Brown or D-Man/Dubois, either way, leaving Tkachuk available at 6.
• Goalie: Reimer
• Trade: Wideman
• Buyout: Raymond
• UFA: Okposo

[The Fonz]

Trade: Wideman - need to move him, and it's possible. Nobody's going to take any of Smid, Raymond, or Stajan.
Goalie: Reimer - assuming the cost of Bishop is sky high
UFA: Backes - as long as it's no longer than 3 years
Buyout: Raymond - it's time. Too soft and doesn't excel in any particular area.

[FlameZilla]

Coach - Dineen
6th - Dubois
Goalie - MA Fleury
Big trade - Colborne
Buyout - Raymond

[kyuss275]

what i want to happen

Coach - Green
6th - Dubois
Goalie - Varlamov
Trade- Wideman
Buy-out- Stajan


what i think will happen

Coach- Green
6th - Brown
Goalie - Riemer
Big trade - Bollig
buyout - Wideman

[OffsideSpecialist]

HC - Maclean
6th - Idk
Goalie - Reimer
Trade - Wideman
Buyout - Raymond
UFA - Backes

[Vulcan]

HC - Green
6th - Dubois or TKachuk or Brown or Chychrun - depends who's available
Goalie - Reimer - no loss of assets and he's got good stats
Trade - Wideman
Buyout - Raymond, Wideman (depends on expansion draft status and trade ability), Smid if healthy and Stajan if needed

RW - This could be a choice as well, depending on our cap status, draftee or wait for Pribyl

[ignite]

HC - Dineen
6th - traded in package with Wideman for Duchene
Goaltending - Neuvirth/Ortio
Trade - Kevin Hayes
UFA - Okposo (dreaming)
Buyout - Stajan

[hockey.modern]

HC - Darryl Sutter
AC - Travis Green/Kevin Dineen

Draft - Dubois/Tkachuk/Nylander

Goalie - Reimer/Andersen/Fleury

Trade - Colborne, Wideman, Bouma/Ferland, Wotherspoon

UFA - Lucic, Backes?

RFA - Tom Wilson

Buyout - Raymond

[jmac98]

Originally Posted by Money Baer

HC - Kevin Dineen
6th - Tkatchuk (Someone ahead of us will take a defender)
Goalie - Andersson
Big trade - Wideman
Buyout - None

This looks pretty good to me.

I agree that someone in front of us will grab the first D off the board, my guess is Vancouver. Edmonton will trade their pick for a D and whomever they send it to (NYI/Hamonic?) will select Dubois. That will leave us with Tkatchuk which would be a nice compliment to Bennett's style.

I hope if the Flames go with a trade for a goalie it's Anderson just as you selected. He seems to slot in best for me. There's others I'm happy with as well, but I'd like to see this pulled off if possible.

Wideman needs a fresh start. I can't say I've put a lot of thought into where he could go, but perhaps it's something like Dallas where we take Niemi or Lehtonen back (after securing our bonafide starter) which allows Dallas the ability to thereafter seek another goalie. I believe Dallas' goalies have 1 year left just as Wideman does, so maybe it's just more a logistics move for both teams. We overpay for a backup for a year, but it offsets the move with Wideman all the same. Don't read into this thought too much, am just thinking out loud. But I do see Wideman on the move without much in return.

Regarding a buy out, I don't see that happening but who knows.

As a side note, I'd like to see Calgary take a flier on Sean Day in the draft. He was the guy granted exceptional status into the OHL a few years back and was slotted in as a top 5 selection for his eventual draft year. He's since fallen off the radar quite substantially, at least in respect to the hype surrounding him, however, if the Flames are looking to add to the black and blue theory, he's like 6'3 230+ lbs. Just because he hasn't continued a meteoric rise the way perhaps his size alone allowed him earlier in his career, doesn't mean he won't eventually come into form and develop at a more organic/natural pace like most D tend to. He might not be the elite player once bestowed of him, but I think he'd be a terrific sleeper pick if selected in the proper round (3rd or wherever he's currently placed by rank). It seems he might still have a lot of tools that could maybe develop a bit more over time and turn into a terrific 2 way defender. I don't necessarily know a ton about him, but I remember reading quite a bit about him when he was 14,15. He could be a good fit to our core D in a few years from what I'm reading and if he can round into form.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

In the summer of 2012 a team that had just finished with 74 pts in the 82 game regular season extended a smaller winger who had just finished his 2nd season in the NHL with 34 goal and 76 pts to 6x6 deal.

They had just locked down a high draft pick who was living up to expectations year before his ELC was done to a 6x7 deal so that he wouldn't be open to an offer sheet.

The team immediately improved to 45 pts in 48 games. (77 pts in 82 games) They had a 19 year old centre who was a Calder trophy finalist who they also extended with a 6x7 the next off season with a year left on his ELC.

This team is one of the most ridiculed in NHL history. What the heck were they doing locking down a core long-term that had not shown any indications of playing winning hockey.

There is a very huge risk to the team committing before establishing a winning tradition.

Hahahahahahahaha

Are you seriously suggesting the Flames shouldn't sign 13 and 23? Ridiculous.

[dammage79]

HC: Phil Housley
6th: Nylander
UFA: Peter Mueller
Goalie: Fleury
Trade: In: Ryan Strome. Out: Wideman ( not for Strome, two separate trades)