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Old 04-23-2016, 01:00 PM   #1881
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He talks about using criminals to apply for Uber licenses, that to me is embarrassing, and conduct outside of being any kind of mayor.

I know you guys want to give him a pass for whatever reason, but to me, he made an ass out of himself and the office that he occupies.
Yep, he's basically admitted that the City was willing to pull any tactics necessary to prevent Uber from operating in Calgary.

Nenshi really needs to stop running his mouth and check his ego, might be another law suit coming.
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He talks about using criminals to apply for Uber licenses, that to me is embarrassing, and conduct outside of being any kind of mayor.
That's far less embarrassing than Uber's background check not catching these applicants.

Perhaps Calgary wanted to be sure, since Uber failed previously before and had to pay up to California for the same issues with background checks:

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/7/113...ion-settlement
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Old 04-23-2016, 01:08 PM   #1883
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Yep, he's basically admitted that the City was willing to pull any tactics necessary to prevent Uber from operating in Calgary.

Nenshi really needs to stop running his mouth and check his ego, might be another law suit coming.
No he didn't. They questioned the background checks and then saw what they could get away with. It sounds like those people got through the system so the City said, nope we will do the background checks

Im a huge proponent of Uber and was PO'ed when the new Regs came out. I thought they were too much.

In the video, he talks about asking lyft if they wanted to enter the market, and the CEO said we don't like the Regs either, so Nenshi said they may have to be re-worked. Obviously he likes the concept of ride-sharing companies. He is using Lyft/Uber in Boston, and talks positively about the business model
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Old 04-23-2016, 01:12 PM   #1884
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No he didn't. They questioned the background checks and then saw what they could get away with. It sounds like those people got through the system so the City said, nope we will do the background checks

Im a huge proponent of Uber and was PO'ed when the new Regs came out. I thought they were too much.

In the video, he talks about asking lyft if they wanted to enter the market, and the CEO said we don't like the Regs either, so Nenshi said they may have to be re-worked. Obviously he likes the concept of ride-sharing companies. He is using Lyft/Uber in Boston, and talks positively about the business model
So the the City didn't find criminals to sign up for Uber? It's right in the article.

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“We’re no fools, so we sent people to sign up to be Uber drivers to see if they could get through the background check,” Nenshi said Thursday during the live broadcast, a copy of which was obtained by Postmedia.
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So the the City didn't find criminals to sign up for Uber? It's right in the article.
I guess I am confused about this outrage.

So how should we test Uber's promise to keep criminals from employment as Uber drivers?
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I guess I am confused about this outrage.

So how should we test Uber's promise to keep criminals from employment as Uber drivers?
I guess I'm just wondering if other Canadian cities did this when dealing with Uber, or if it was just Calgary.
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So the the City didn't find criminals to sign up for Uber? It's right in the article.

Nobody had said the City didn't do that. But what exactly is the problem?
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Old 04-23-2016, 02:09 PM   #1888
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He talks about using criminals to apply for Uber licenses, that to me is embarrassing, and conduct outside of being any kind of mayor.

I know you guys want to give him a pass for whatever reason, but to me, he made an ass out of himself and the office that he occupies.
Yeah, so? Isn't that what a mayor and the government should be doing? Seeing if the system works? It obviously didn't.
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Old 04-23-2016, 02:45 PM   #1889
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I guess I'm just wondering if other Canadian cities did this when dealing with Uber, or if it was just Calgary.
so this outrage is about Calgary confirming that Uber can deliver on Uber's promises?
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Old 04-23-2016, 03:13 PM   #1890
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Meanwhile at Uber - thankfully the issue here is the city is trying to keep their citizens safe, we don't have to do criminal checks.

Bad on Nenshi for trying to make sure people are safe.
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Old 04-23-2016, 03:33 PM   #1891
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Yeah shame on Calgary making sure its citizens are safe and aren't being driven around by criminals.
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Well the fact the city has a "go to list" of sex offenders that they'll pay to "test the system" seems rather un ethical. Nenshi's arrogance he shows when he says he "doesn't want to know how they found them" is rather disturbing. Himself using a ride sharing service should be considered hypocritical. Just imagine if a right wing leaving mayor such as Rob Ford had tried this approach (hiring sex offenders). And has the city tested the taxi commission the same way?
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I think Nenshi should be applauded here. He's not just being anti-Uber for the sake of it. Here he is getting into an Uber/Lyft ride because he genuinely wants to talk to the driver and find out his experiences. He doesn't have to do that. And if it hadn't been for the random guy recording the conversation, we would never know that Nenshi even took that opportunity. Presumably, this isn't the first Uber ride he has taken.
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Well the fact the city has a "go to list" of sex offenders that they'll pay to "test the system" seems rather un ethical. Nenshi's arrogance he shows when he says he "doesn't want to know how they found them" is rather disturbing. Himself using a ride sharing service should be considered hypocritical. Just imagine if a right wing leaving mayor such as Rob Ford had tried this approach (hiring sex offenders). And has the city tested the taxi commission the same way?
Unethical in what way? So you have a problem with the city hiring sex offenders but would rather the city just allows Uber to continue hiring sex offenders to drive around strangers?

Himself using a ride share service shows he has no issue with ride share services and is genuinely looking into the best interests of Calgary, he has never been against Uber's business model just wanted them to follow some simple laws and not have criminals driving around strangers.

How is that hypocritical?
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Well the fact the city has a "go to list" of sex offenders that they'll pay to "test the system" seems rather un ethical.
What's unethical about it? They're not paying them to #### kids.

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Himself using a ride sharing service should be considered hypocritical.
As was mentioned earlier he's not against ride sharing, and even approached Lyft about operating in the city. He's against uber, because as has been demonstrated, they're not willing to play by the rules.

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Yeah, the left wing zealots would have attacked him, and they'd be just as midguided as you are

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The taxi commision is part of the city, so why would they?
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I really don't understand the outrage. If you make a claim to a potential customers the stake holders are going to test it and I expect the city to test their background checks if they don't go through CPS / RCMP and instead elect to do their own.

As for how they got them, if I was the city I would just contact one of the social post incarcerations programs to find contract workers, so I don't really understand the outrage on that either. Their are probably plenty of ways to reach out to advertise work like this to ex-cons.

While Nenshi spoke candidly, I don't understand why the outrage isn't that Uber made a false claim that they are doing criminal background checks, glad they aren't coming to Calgary.
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Am I alone in not giving a crap if I'm driven by a convicted criminal? Sounds like a pretty decent job to let them rejoin society.
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This makes me appreciate Nenshi even more. How are people pissed off about the fact that they tested Uber's claims to ensure Calgarians are safe? I am pretty surprised that people are focusing their displeasure with the City for doing something like that, rather than at Uber who lies and claims their background checks are sufficient.

One day when I use a ride sharing service in Calgary, I'll be extremely happy knowing the city made sure I'd be safe, not just the company profiting off of me.

Jesus people, stop looking for things to bicker about. This is awesome stuff by Nenshi.
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Am I alone in not giving a crap if I'm driven by a convicted criminal? Sounds like a pretty decent job to let them rejoin society.
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

Apparently some people are. I'm assuming women getting driven home late at night alone would be. Who knows.

Uber did lose a 25 million lawsuit in California because of their background checks.

I think the insurance thing is pretty interesting as well. Sounds like the City kept asking to see their insurance, and Uber said don't worry we got it. It turns out they were their own insurance. Just paying out as things happened.

Also, its pretty interesting when he asks his driver about having insurance and it was pretty clear that he didnt have the required insurance.
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