There should never be a train of cars in the left lane. People need to make their pass quickly, and then move back over to the right lane. I wish everyone could drive the autobahn just once, to see how it's done.
The Infiniti driver though, that's another level of dumbassery. He was just stunting. I cannot understand how he wasn't immediately charged.
I agree completely. This is unfortunately the crap we have to deal with, and this road is the worst example of it. It's not all on that group though, there's cars in front of them doing the exact same thing.
Why the hell would you take the QEII for a cruise though, that road in infuriating and should just be a last resort for convenience sake, not a road I';d take if I was out for a fun drive.
I'd guess he wasn't immediately charged because there wasn't any police present
lol haven't you heard? It doesn't matter how busy it is, some people need to be let through because they are in a hurry. I frequently lay on the horn at 430pm on deerfoot all the way from memorial until I hit 64th ave because I'm in the left lane dammit and it is a passing lane!!!
Look at this guy who thinks that the deerfoot is the same as the QE2, good thing we have undercover police officers like you to make sure no one goes above what you think is the appropriate limit.
In my experience I have only seem Dangerous Driving under the Criminal Code by used when a death has occurred.
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Yeah that punishment doesn't really fit this crime. Nobody was hurt, wasn't actually witnessed by police, I doubt they even give a 6 demerit careless driving ticket.
I have heard before that the general reason why one would see careless driving more than dangerous driving in these scenarios is that careless is easier to prove. In this case, the video and witness statements would probably make the higher charge a slam dunk if the Crown wanted to make a point.
249(1) Every one commits an offence who operates
(a) a motor vehicle in a manner that is dangerous to the public, having regard to all the circumstances, including the nature, condition and use ofthe place at which the motor vehicle is being operated and the amount of traffic that at the time is or might reasonably be expected to be at that place;
(2) Every one who commits an offence under subsection (1)(a) is guilty of an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or
(b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
(3) Every one who commits an offence under subsection (1) and thereby causes bodily harm to any other person is guilty of an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years.
(4) Every one who commits an offence under subsection (1) and thereby causes the death of any other person is guilty of an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.
I agree completely. This is unfortunately the crap we have to deal with, and this road is the worst example of it. It's not all on that group though, there's cars in front of them doing the exact same thing.
Why the hell would you take the QEII for a cruise though, that road in infuriating and should just be a last resort for convenience sake, not a road I';d take if I was out for a fun drive.
I'd guess he wasn't immediately charged because there wasn't any police present
Agreed. This happens all the time. I find driving out to Banff on the weekends to be more stressful than driving in Calgary "rush hour", with people hanging out in the left lane. I find this particularly annoying when the right lane is empty.
There should never be a train of cars in the left lane. People need to make their pass quickly, and then move back over to the right lane. I wish everyone could drive the autobahn just once, to see how it's done.
The Infiniti driver though, that's another level of dumbassery. He was just stunting. I cannot understand how he wasn't immediately charged.
Totally agree. Being in the left lane is a little scary, becuase you never know when some exotic is going to be on you before you can blink. You make sure it is clear, make your pass and get the F back over.
One benefit the Autobahn has though is I don't think Semi's are allowed to pass, and are limited to a speed that I think is lower than unlimited, so you don't get them doing stupid stuff. They all just drive the same speed and dont' pass. Our semi's all think they should be doing 120-130.
In that prolonged video they pass the semi and are still in the left lane. I have zero doubt they were driving like idiots their entire way up to Red Deer as shown in that video they weren't following the laws.
And for the guys with reading comprehension problems this isn't excusing the other driver.
Look at this guy who thinks that the deerfoot is the same as the QE2, good thing we have undercover police officers like you to make sure no one goes above what you think is the appropriate limit.
What are you talking about? lol your post is so randomly clueless.
Have you ever driven to Edmonton on a weekend? Sometimes it is bumper to bumper and stay right except to pass is literally impossible. Just like deerfoot during rush hour except less busy and slow but same idea. I am honestly concerned about your understanding of the main aspects of highway driving if you don't understand that the principle of Slower Traffic Keep Right is the same on Deerfoot as it is on QEII. And in both cases, sometimes it isn't just morons doing 110kph because they are clueless or left lane warriors. Sometimes there is so much volume that cars are required to use that lane. It would be both unsafe and inefficient to create bumper to bumper slowdowns in the right lane and keep the left lane cruising at full highway speeds in these conditions. This is driving 101.
Sometimes I feel like confirmation of reading all the previous posts should be a prerequisite to posting in a thread.
Let's go through this one more time. There is plenty of evidence to support the idea that the BMW drivers were attempting to pass but due to high traffic volumes they were not able to "stay right except to pass". Slower traffic was on the right and they were attempting to go faster but short of running cars off the road, there was no where to go.
It is mind bottling how anyone things this is about left lane warriors. I don't know how you can't see that.
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There's a guy on Beyond that's a part of this group. Guess the Infiniti guy is friends with some members of the group, was invited to tag along, and is known to be a complete d-bag behind the wheel. I guess this type of driving behavior isn't a surprise to anyone that knows him. Even before the police were called, this guy AND anyone he knew in the group got banned from the club immediately. I guess he also got "A few tickets" but no info on what they were
Good on the group for booting them all. Like I said, that was my main problem with groups like this, and why I stopped participating in local car culture and largely just started doing my own thing. Nobody having the balls to stand up to the idiots
Looks like Cecil never followed his own advice. Watch the prolonged video until the end. The BMW drivers had plenty of room to switch to the right lane after the semi switched over and not one of them did. They literally had at least 200 M to switch lanes.
And I've driven to Edmonton more than 100 times. The roads being busy isn't an excuse. You can still pass and go to the right lane immediately. It's not rocket science.
There will be times there are idiots blocking the flow of traffic and the BMW drivers are the idiots blocking traffic in this scenario (after they pass the semi).
People outraged at the driver in the left hand lane, for 'slowing things up', should look again at the 18 wheeler in the right hand lane. Somewhere up ahead, a driver was clearly passing this truck, and the other drivers were matching the speed of the passing car until they had cleared the left lane. Exactly how you are supposed to behave.
There are an amazing amount of drivers who are incapable of seeing anything on the road other than the car immediately in front of them. I see people tailgating cars on highways almost every day, and in 90% of the cases, there is a reason why the tailgated car is driving at the speed they are. Looking half a km up the road should be enough to calm most of these 'left lane heroes'.
Also being overlooked is that if the Infinity actually passed that truck on the right hand shoulder, that is incredibly dangerous. Most trucks would have difficulty seeing the passing car until they are right on top of them.
Edit : alright, going to check the long video, posted earlier. Thought that they were the same. May be that the BMW drivers weren't clearing the lane, but my overall impression of drivers in the province still stands, IMO.
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Guy is an idiot for cutting between two cars...the other guys are driving like dicks though. Why can't all of the be morons? It seem pretty obvious to me.
Oh and that white BMW switched lanes without signalling. Like I said these seemed like the perfect group to be together and it isn't a surprise they invited the Infinity driver out as in that 3 minute video I counted about 3 laws being broken.
Oh and that white BMW switched lanes without signalling. Like I said these seemed like the perfect group to be together and it isn't a surprise they invited the Infinity driver out as in that 3 minute video I counted about 3 laws being broken.
It's a white BMW, the turn signal stalk isn't actually connected to anything
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I'm just going to backpedal a bit... I still haven't clicked on the link. I thought to myself it was a BMW before entering the thread , then a few posters mentioned a BMW. I still have no idea what has happened, aside from there being an Infiniti, and a BMW.
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Something similar happened to me yesterday, except instead of a highway it was a schoolzone. The offender apparently couldn't handle the 1 block of 30 km/h so he swerved into the oncoming lane to pass two vehicles. In the south Calgary suburbs, with a stop sign about 100m ahead. just, why.
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