04-11-2016, 12:21 PM
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First Line Centre
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Darren Haynes @DarrenWHaynes 20m20 minutes ago
UFA Derek Grant says he liked Calgary, is open to re-signing but wants to play in NHL. Adds he's "no dummy", knows #Flames depth at centre.
Not sure if the Grant stuff was posted. Sounds to me like we'll struggle to keep him here unless we can give him a decent shot at playing in the NHL. But with Monahan, Bennett, Backlund and Stajan coming back next season, I don't see a place for Grant. Well, I do, as 4th line centre. But can we move Stajan out, what with the possible expansion draft, the dwindling number of veteran forwards on the team, his bad contract etc?
Be interesting to see how this one plays out.
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04-11-2016, 12:24 PM
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#62
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ1532
Darren Haynes @DarrenWHaynes 20m20 minutes ago
UFA Derek Grant says he liked Calgary, is open to re-signing but wants to play in NHL. Adds he's "no dummy", knows #Flames depth at centre.
Not sure if the Grant stuff was posted. Sounds to me like we'll struggle to keep him here unless we can give him a decent shot at playing in the NHL. But with Monahan, Bennett, Backlund and Stajan coming back next season, I don't see a place for Grant. Well, I do, as 4th line centre. But can we move Stajan out, what with the possible expansion draft, the dwindling number of veteran forwards on the team, his bad contract etc?
Be interesting to see how this one plays out.
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Stajan could also make the move over the to the wing - it would just need to be stressed to Grant that the 4th line C spot is his to lose, and that Stajan is being transitioned out of that role to 3/4 line LW
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04-11-2016, 12:25 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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It's weird that there are No-Trade Clauses, No-Movement Clauses, but no such thing as a No-Waive Clause. You would think a No-Waive Clause would be a great incentive to retain a guy like Grant.
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04-11-2016, 12:27 PM
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#64
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Interesting.
My thinking is Gaudreau at about $7.5 million per (Tarasenko comparable), and Mony at about $6 million per (Barkov comparable).
Let's split the difference shall we?
Both can sign 8 year $6.750 million per year deals.
Then it can be the Gio/Johnny/Mony Flames cap max.  |
I like this.
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04-11-2016, 12:30 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
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Surprised Hamilton not going to the worlds. I guess he has his reasons but I would have liked to watch him play there, more so than Gio and Brodie.
Not going to give BT too much credit for making the quick decision on Hiller. I can't imagine an easier decision.
My spider sense tells me we see two new goalies next year.
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04-11-2016, 12:31 PM
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#66
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
It's weird that there are No-Trade Clauses, No-Movement Clauses, but no such thing as a No-Waive Clause. You would think a No-Waive Clause would be a great incentive to retain a guy like Grant.
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They could probably work something like in if they wanted. AFAIK, the terms of NTCs and NMCs are pretty negotiable.
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04-11-2016, 12:31 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Ideally I'd like to move Stajan to the wing and make Grant the 4th lone centre. Then you can still expose Stajan in the expansion draft.
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04-11-2016, 12:37 PM
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#68
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If you move Stajan to the wing you end up having to sit Bouma or not give a kid like Shinkaruk a chance or you relegate Stajan to the press box where his position is irrelevant. Unless they have to sit according to position up there.
Stajan had a fun, unexpected game on the wing. I don't see that as his new home. Not on the Flames at least.
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04-11-2016, 12:39 PM
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#69
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
What a contrast to the team up north.
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There's a team up north? Who'd a thunk it??
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04-11-2016, 12:40 PM
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#70
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I'd like to see Grant back as the 4th line center too, and I'm good with moving Stajan to the wing to make it happen, but you can't go giving a 26 year old with 40 NHL games some sort of "no-waive" clause.
You'd basically be gifting him an NHL roster spot that he should have to earn.
One thing you could do though is give him a one way contract that way he makes the same money in the AHL as he would in the NHL.
In fact, he'd make more in the AHL because he wouldn't have to pay escrow IIRC.
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04-11-2016, 12:44 PM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Does anyone know if Treliving will be holding a press conference today?
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04-11-2016, 12:47 PM
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#72
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Toonage
If you move Stajan to the wing you end up having to sit Bouma or not give a kid like Shinkaruk a chance or you relegate Stajan to the press box where his position is irrelevant. Unless they have to sit according to position up there.
Stajan had a fun, unexpected game on the wing. I don't see that as his new home. Not on the Flames at least.
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Bouma is always hurt, so atleast there is that.
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04-11-2016, 12:48 PM
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#73
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Does anyone know if Treliving will be holding a press conference today?
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Yes:
Sports On News Talk
Sports On News Talk – @SportsOn770
.@NHLFlames GM Treliving and coach Hartley to speak 'mid-afternoon
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04-11-2016, 12:50 PM
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#74
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Surprised Hamilton not going to the worlds. I guess he has his reasons but I would have liked to watch him play there, more so than Gio and Brodie.
Not going to give BT too much credit for making the quick decision on Hiller. I can't imagine an easier decision.
My spider sense tells me we see two new goalies next year.
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This could very well be the case.
I think at the very least, Treliving wants to explore his options before he re-signs Ortio. Pretty obvious that the organization wants to have Gillies in the AHL and getting the bulk of the starts. If the Flames find 2 upgrades over Ortio - with at least one of them being a younger goalie (around Ortio's age anyways), I bet they go that direction.
I like that he is taking his time where Ortio is concerned. Wouldn't be surprised to see 2 new ones, wouldn't surprise me to see Ortio being retained.
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04-11-2016, 12:53 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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If we find 2 new goalies, what's are Ortios rights worth in trade ? Could we get a 3rd for them ?
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04-11-2016, 12:54 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
It's weird that there are No-Trade Clauses, No-Movement Clauses, but no such thing as a No-Waive Clause. You would think a No-Waive Clause would be a great incentive to retain a guy like Grant.
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because that is because a NMC means cannot be waived
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04-11-2016, 12:55 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Demetric
because that is because a NMC means cannot be waived
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a (full) NMC also means cannot be traded but there are still NTCs.
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04-11-2016, 12:58 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahan For Mayor
If we find 2 new goalies, what's are Ortios rights worth in trade ? Could we get a 3rd for them ?
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Highly doubtful considering he passed through waivers a few months ago.
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04-11-2016, 01:03 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahan For Mayor
If we find 2 new goalies, what's are Ortios rights worth in trade ? Could we get a 3rd for them ?
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I'd be surprised. If the team with the worst goaltending in the league won't sign him I doubt others would trade assets for him when they could sign for free in the off season.
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04-11-2016, 01:03 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The C-spot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTeeks
Ryan Leslie @ryanleslie732m2 minutes ago
"If it were up to us, we'd sign the same deal"- Gaudreau re: Monahan
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I'm guessing Sean Monahan wishes he could sign the same deal as Gaudreau...
I'm not against a Perry/Getzlaf or Kane/Toews situation but only if they meet in the middle of what can reasonably expected to be a disparity in pay.
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