Trump would be an incredibly bad POTUS, possibly the worst in history.
Cruz would be worse. He's the kind of religious nutcase who could push the button. He would be absolutely devastating for not just the US, but possibly the entire world.
The only saving grace in this election will be a contested convention where the old guard of the GOP attempts to circumvent (or bend drastically) the rules of the game to "steal" the nomination from one or both of the Trump/Cruz crazy train, thereby ensuring the death of the GOP itself.
Hopefully, in the aftermath, two new parties can form - one that is the traditional "right of center" party, and the Tea Party wack-a-doodles can be relegated to the far right fringe nutcase party that they are.
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Would like to see this happen in the Democratic party as well, progressives form their own party since Democratic party as it is now is the establishment party of the center.
Hillary has played the game while Bernie pushed her to the left, and now she is already moving back to the center and right.
The reason Bernie brought out so many supporters is because the left in the US is pretty much unrepresented in congress and senate. All the mainstream media is corporate focused centrist politically leaning, if not often more on the right, at least they fear seeming at all liberal because of how the right drills home the "liberal media" which is a total falsehood.
Imagine a 4 party system in the US lol, would make things very interesting.
Four party system could very much complicate the electoral college process, assuming 270 remains the magic number. I think the Democrats though would dominate a four party system as a centrist party because they'd dominate the most important voting block in Latinos. That's the major Republican sin right now, that once again they are alienating Latinos, and they will likely turn them into another group just like African Americans the Dems will have on lock down for generations to come.
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You could insert just about any politicians name into that tweet, they all lie, cheat and take payoffs in the name of winning. Hell, JFK even used dead people for phony votes and he's regarded as one of the best presidents in history.
FYI, Cruz started this latest crap, posting nude photo's of Trumps wife in the bible thumping state of Utah days before the voting is shameless as well.
As much as I hate Trump and Cruz to be fair to Cruz he and his campaign actually jad nothing to do with that face book campaign.
It was a mormon group who favours Cruz over Trump. Even within that meme they started it has right at the bottom with astrisks that it was not endorsed by the Cruz campaign .
I know you don't believe it but sometimes even the evil out there dosen't always have their hand in every proverbial cookie jar.
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As much as I hate Trump and Cruz to be fair to Cruz he and his campaign actually jad nothing to do with that face book campaign.
It was a mormon group who favours Cruz over Trump. Even within that meme they started it has right at the bottom with astrisks that it was not endorsed by the Cruz campaign .
I know you don't believe it but sometimes even the evil out there dosen't always have their hand in every proverbial cookie jar.
You must mean the mormon group headed by the now superpac leader Mitt Romney? please!...don't insult the intelligence of people reading this thread.
While I don't even believe in the word evil, I really don't believe anything that comes out of Ted Cruz's mouth, he's in the dictionary under the words "bible thumping, lying, hated freak of nature arsehole"
I would take 10 Trumps over 10% of a Cruz any day of the week, and I think Trump is crazy!
It is just weakening Clinton's credibility at this point. The DNC, along with the Clinton campaign, must be all but screaming in Sanders' ear trying to get him to drop out. If news gets out that any super-delegates are thinking of switching, then that would be a real wounding blow to Clinton's chances in a Presidential.
I have played with it a little, and it hammers home the point for me that the GOP really needs to make inroads among certain key demographics (such as Latinos) in order to have a hope of winning the electoral college this fall.
It also shows Trump's main weakness: his key demographic is non-college educated white voters. Even if turnout in that group goes through the roof, and Trump significantly increases his vote share, he can't win with them this fall. This is a group that is actually pretty powerful in an electoral-college sense (Pennsylvania and Ohio) are two key swing states that could be affected, but this won't offset the fact that he will lose Latinos, African-Americans, and may lose part of the GOP's traditional slight advantage among college-educated white voters, a group he hasn't done especially well with.
^^It's not weakening her cred even slightly at this point. If anyone's cred is being weakened it's Bernie. He sort of went from "#### the superdelegates, this is anti-democracy" to him basically begging for them now (to override democracy and hand him the win). Because he thought there was a chance he'd win the pledged, but lose out because of the supers. Now that he's all but guaranteed to lose the pledged race, might as well beg the superdelegates now. Kind of hypocritical...
...but the superdelegates are not switching anyway. Hillary is all but guaranteed to have more votes, more delegates, and has a very good possibility of winning every demographic except young, white males. She's winning the Democraric demographics easily; he's winning independents only pretty much. So if the superdelegates switched to Bernie, it would probably rank as the biggest shocker in political history. Bernie has virtually no good claim to the superdelegates other than "I deserve to win", which is a pretty ####ty claim when he is likely to be millions of votes behind.
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The 2nd amendment crowd has finally nuked the fridge. Does anyone seriously think the Secret Service would allow open carry guns into a presidential convention?
Also, I love the typical Trump quote where he puts a bunch of words together without actually saying anything:
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"I have not seen the petition," Trump said on ABC. "I want to see what it says. I want to read the fine print. I have to see what it says. I’m a very, very strong person for Second Amendment. I think very few people are stronger. And I have to see the petition."
^^It's not weakening her cred even slightly at this point. If anyone's cred is being weakened it's Bernie. He sort of went from "#### the superdelegates, this is anti-democracy" to him basically begging for them now (to override democracy and hand him the win). Because he thought there was a chance he'd win the pledged, but lose out because of the supers. Now that he's all but guaranteed to lose the pledged race, might as well beg the superdelegates now. Kind of hypocritical...
...but the superdelegates are not switching anyway. Hillary is all but guaranteed to have more votes, more delegates, and has a very good possibility of winning every demographic except young, white males. She's winning the Democraric demographics easily; he's winning independents only pretty much. So if the superdelegates switched to Bernie, it would probably rank as the biggest shocker in political history. Bernie has virtually no good claim to the superdelegates other than "I deserve to win", which is a pretty ####ty claim when he is likely to be millions of votes behind.
While he is definitely still facing an uphill battle. Notion that Clinton wins with Democrats entirely may not hold true anymore. Newest Bloomberg poll found Clinton is now behind Sanders in the national polls 49 to 48 among Democrats. The only demographic she still clearly wins is white rich women over 65.
I was watching The Dead Zone last night...a 1983 movie with Chris Walken. Martin Sheen's character reminded me of Trump. Apparently I'm not the only one. Here is the best quality clip I could find.
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While he is definitely still facing an uphill battle. Notion that Clinton wins with Democrats entirely may not hold true anymore. Newest Bloomberg poll found Clinton is now behind Sanders in the national polls 49 to 48 among Democrats. The only demographic she still clearly wins is white rich women over 65.
There were three other national polls that came out last week showing her up double digits, so the Bloomberg one could be the outlier. Problem is he still hasn't shown that he's changed anything with demographics, and we won't find that out until the NE states vote again. But that's where his major problem lies ahead after he's finished routing caucuses. Ultimately the problem is he never changed the equation to winning, if anything her advantage among minorities and women has increased. He can dominate caucuses in smaller states, she wins big primary states with strong margins.
And then there's the fact 65% of all remaining delegates are in California, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Maryland. All but California are closed primaries, and that probably much means at least 20 point Hillary wins (indeed, the available polls for NY, Penn and MD show huge leads). So I think we can realistically give him 20 point losses in four of the five. That basically leaves him needing to win California 70-30 at a minimum. First couple polls out show her up around 10% there. And that's not even including the possibility he losses Wisconsin, where he's currently polling behind. His odds of winning are still linked to her getting indicted more than anything else.
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