This deal is getting worse and worse with each round. Except for the fact that we're already ahead. I really want this 1st.
It's not so bad, even without the first IMO. Jokipakka replaces Russell more than adequately and Pollock is a Poirier level prospect in mind. The pick is just gravy, whether it's a first or a second.
Treliving's best deal yet, and he has a few gooders under his belt.
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Good deal for sure, but best? I dunno, going to be hard to top the Hamilton deal in my mind.
Hamilton was a great deal, don't get me wrong. To me it was about the right value, slightly more than the offersheet compensation that the Flames would pay at that salary. The most amazing part of that trade was that Hamilton was available at all, not so much that we ripped Boston off IMO.
The Russell trade was a fleecing, no other way to put it. Never in a million years did I think Treliving could get that much for a #4/5 Dman who is a pending UFA.
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I'm saying if Russell is day-to-day with injuries (like he currently is -- he was scratched versus Chicago with a lower body injury) -- for example:
Round 1 - Stars win series 4-1, Russell only plays in 2 games due to injury
Round 2 - Stars up 3-1, Russell again only plays in 2 games due to injury
Do you play Russell in Game 5? If Dallas wins, Russell plays in 5 out of 10 games and the Stars lose their first rounder. Or, do you take the chance you can win without dressing him, up 3-1 in the series?
Might be somewhat farfetched, but it could happen...
A coach who ices less than his best team during the playoffs should be fired. A GM who asks his coach to do that should be fired.
There is zero chance this happens.
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A coach who ices less than his best team during the playoffs should be fired. A GM who asks his coach to do that should be fired.
There is zero chance this happens.
Agreed. It looks like something a twerp might do in NHL 16, just because he's bored with winning and wants to make it fun by taking unnecessary risks. (I've known several such twerps. I could tell you stories, but I won't… and you're welcome.)
Having a first-round pick instead of a second might help the Stars have a better chance at the Stanley Cup 5 or 10 years from now. Finishing a series in 5 games instead of 6 or 7 helps them much more directly this year, when their chances are probably as good as they're going to get.
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A coach who ices less than his best team during the playoffs should be fired. A GM who asks his coach to do that should be fired.
There is zero chance this happens.
Think about last years playoffs when people wondered whether or not to dress Sam Bennett for his 10th game or roll the first year of his ELC.
It was a no brainier because Bennett helped you win games and gave you the best chance to win. If Hartley and/or Treliving and/or Burke made the call to sit him based on contract, he should/would have been sacked.
Think about last years playoffs when people wondered whether or not to dress Sam Bennett for his 10th game or roll the first year of his ELC.
It was a no brainier because Bennett helped you win games and gave you the best chance to win. If Hartley and/or Treliving and/or Burke made the call to sit him based on contract, he should/would have been sacked.
A bit of a difference imo, we were losing the series when Bennetts 10th game came up. We absolutely needed him. Might think differently if you are up 3-0 or even 3-1 in the series. Also it meant Bennett couldn't play anymore games in the playoffs, with Russell they could "potentially" sit him for 1 final game in West final, if it equaled less than 50% & then just played him again in the Cup finals.
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He's basically a Russian version of Taylor Hall, big, fast, strong as an ox, and smart as a tractor. Except he's a RW, and would look great in a Flames jersey, d-bag tattoos and all.
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Even if the pick ends up a 2nd rounder, thats still quite a good haul for Russell. I'll still cheer for Dallas to make it to the WCF, but I won't be bummed if they fall short. But the way they've manhandled the Blackhawks this year tells me they have a real shot at a Cup Final.
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A bit of a difference imo, we were losing the series when Bennetts 10th game came up. We absolutely needed him. Might think differently if you are up 3-0 or even 3-1 in the series. Also it meant Bennett couldn't play anymore games in the playoffs, with Russell they could "potentially" sit him for 1 final game in West final, if it equaled less than 50% & then just played him again in the Cup finals.
He's basically a Russian version of Taylor Hall, big, fast, strong as an ox, and smart as a tractor. Except he's a RW, and would look great in a Flames jersey, d-bag tattoos and all.
You mean the same guy that the Stars and their fanbase are impressed with in his defensive game and compete on the boards? Yep, sounds like a Taylor Hall alright.
I would take Nichushkin on my team and pay handsomely for him. Very coach-able and cerebral from everything I read.
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He's basically a Russian version of Taylor Hall, big, fast, strong as an ox, and smart as a tractor. Except he's a RW, and would look great in a Flames jersey, d-bag tattoos and all.
I don't think Nichushkin lacks intelligence. His biggest weakness seems to be slow hands although he's still young.
Assuming that the current standings hold and Dallas finishes 2nd and Washington finishes 1st in the league standings after the regular season, these are the scenarios for the pick the Flames get back (also assuming I didn't make a mistake)
If Dallas loses in the first 2 rounds (If Arizona does not sign Connor Bleackley drop the pick down one more spot):
#55 OA if Washington also loses in the first 2 rounds
#56 OA if Washington goes on to the Eastern Conference Finals
If Dallas goes to the Western Conference Finals and lose and Russell plays 50% of the games in first two rounds:
#27 OA only if Washington also loses the Eastern Conference Finals
#28 OA all other cases
If Dallas loses Stanley Cup Final and Russell plays 50% of the games in first two rounds:
#29 OA
If Dallas wins Stanley cup and Russell plays 50% of the games in first two rounds:
#30 OA
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