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Old 03-22-2016, 10:22 AM   #61
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We already know what causes terrorism - alienated groups, humanity's love of violence, and the human failing of credulity. It's not Islam, it's not Machine-Gun Jesus, it's not militant tree-huggers, it's not even godless socialism in our precious bodily fluids. It's people letting their fear and anger drive them to simple solutions and finding someone to blame, and reducing discourse to the same level makes us no better.
Really, so if you could convince the entire planet that Religion is a fairytale (I know it's impossible, think of it as a thought exercise), what do you think would be driving these major terrorist attacks?

I'm sorry but blind faith in fairytales is the root of this problem because the terrorists genuinely believe they're doing gods work and that this is for the greater good. Remove that and make people realize that there is no after life, no reason to risk their lives and then we'll see how many people are willing to risk their one shot at life for whatever bs cause you come up with now.

Convince people there is no God and you will solve this problem.

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Old 03-22-2016, 10:24 AM   #62
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Just realized, the thread title said 81 injured. I think the reddit thread said 170+.

This was the summary 2 hours ago:

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170+ Still injured. The preliminary number for the deathcount has stayed around 34 people. 14 in the airport, 20 in the subway.
Police are supposedly raiding homes that are suspicious. We will report if there are any new developments.
The Berlaymont building is being evacuated (The building where the European Commission is located).
Obama will be making a statement on CNN in the hour from Cuba.
Traffic is restricted in Brussels.
Children are being told to stay at school as they will be safe there for the time being.
The third possible person who left a undetonated suicide belt in the terminal is still at large.
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Really, so do you think if you could convincingly convince the entire planet the Religion is a fairytale (I know it's impossible, think of it as a thought exercise), what do you think would be driving these major terrorist attacks?

I'm sorry but blind faith in fairytales is the root of this problem because the terrorists genuinely believe they're doing gods work and that this is for the greater good. Remove that and make people realize that there is no after life, no reason to risk their lives and then we'll see how many people are willing to risk their lives for whatever bs cause you come up with now.

Convince people there is no God and you will solve this problem.
You will stop the crimes fueled by religion. But you will not stop Sandy Hook, Mass shootings, politically motivated terrorism, territory disputes.... etc.

Yes, religion fuels a lot of this garbage. But wiping religion from existence isn't some sort of magic bullet.
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Old 03-22-2016, 10:28 AM   #64
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You will stop the crimes fueled by religion. But you will not stop Sandy Hook, Mass shootings, politically motivated terrorism, territory disputes.... etc.

Yes, religion fuels a lot of this garbage. But wiping religion from existence isn't some sort of magic bullet.
No but it's a hell of a good start. Obviously psycho's will exist forever, it's biology, but a large portion (if not the majority) of these attacks would go away if people didn't think they would get a second crack at life after death.
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Better live feed than I posted previously which is out of sync
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Old 03-22-2016, 10:43 AM   #66
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They need to close their borders in the EU. Not sure how much that would help but could it keep some of these guys out of their country? I guess we will see once we learn a bit more about the suspects in this attack.
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We already know what causes terrorism - alienated groups, humanity's love of violence, and the human failing of credulity. It's not Islam, it's not Machine-Gun Jesus, it's not militant tree-huggers, it's not even godless socialism in our precious bodily fluids. It's people letting their fear and anger drive them to simple solutions and finding someone to blame, and reducing discourse to the same level makes us no better.
I'll post a reply in the other thread.
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This will probably lead to more deportations, more votes for nationalist parties, and may end up leading to the disintegration of the EU.
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Will try and stay on topic to the event at hand.

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Came to this thread for updates on the situation in Brussels.

Thought I clicked on the ISIS debate thread by mistake.

EDIT: Forgot to add, this is a terrible tragedy. Thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected. My wife and I travelled to Europe two years ago, and we flew through Brussels, so this was pretty scary to hear.

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I get the reasons (aside from the obvious "oil" answer) that we as the west maintain a relationship with the Saudis, but god damn if they don't rub our noses in it constantly via their support of this ####.

I mean surely they realize if they didn't have western military support their heads would likely be on pikes?

I almost respect how brazen it is.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/fi...bia-uncovered/

This is going to be interesting.
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Jesus Christ. This is just so sad.
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Those poor people ugh this is sickening
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Old 03-22-2016, 11:59 AM   #74
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Apparently more explosives found at airport? Bomb squad on the way.

Good news to hear that they weren't able to detonate all their explosives and casualties were reduced.
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^^^ ya that is a good thing. The explosions that did go off caused a lot of damage. Wow. Some of the pics out there are pretty scary.
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:39 PM   #76
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i'm starting a new thread on this rather than having it buried in the mega-thread (which is off the rails itself).
Congrats, now there's two.
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Thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected.
And what exactly is that supposed to do? The first step in the right direction is to eliminate such magical, ludicrous thinking.

Lunatics killing in the name of religion and people decide to pray in response.

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CBC reporting over 200 injured.
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11 Hours since the attack
The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has claimed responsibility for the attacks today.
Police have found a nailed up, Islamic State flag and chemicals in one of the homes searched by police in Schaarbeek
Other explosives found in Brussels airport, bomb squad removed the explosives.
Current death count steadily at 34 people.
Hotels in Brussels are providing rooms for free for people displaced and affected by the attacks.
Taxis will also give free rides to people in Brussels.
Brussels airport has cancelled all flights incoming and outgoing tomorrow. But transportation hubs have begun to restart. Trains will be on a limited schedule and enhanced security will be present at these areas.
About nine Americans were wounded during the bombings. Taxis in Brussels have been working for free.
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Thanks for the update.
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