03-20-2016, 12:07 PM
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#41
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Not a fan of this obvious tanking from a viewership perspective, but whatever from a drafting perspective
Probably not going to watch this game out of principle because I can't stand watching hiller anymore. Makes me physically ill to see the flames completely crumble in front of my eyes every time he's in net
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03-20-2016, 12:12 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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If the flames are trying to win the game, I am really not sure what the point of starting Hiller is. He has clearly not played well, you have two other goalies and doesn't sound like he has earned it in practice.
Some kind of respect move for a veteran? That seems like stretch. What could Hiller possible do to save his season? Hasn't he been given enough chances to do that?
I don't think this is some gigantic controversy, but there are at least some indications that Flames are not playing to win. Whatever.
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03-20-2016, 12:30 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by killer_carlson
This tells me the team isn't sold on Ortio and wants to audition as many people as possible before the end of the year.
Or....
it tells me the team thinks that they need a veteran backup for Ortio next year and are auditioning Backstrom and giving Hiller a shot at the role.
or.....
tank city.
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Backup for Ortio? The Flames plan A better not be going into next season with Ortio as starter. Best case scenario for Ortio better be him penciled in as backup with some else coming in.
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03-20-2016, 12:32 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Genius deduction.
82 Games in a season.
Ramo; 37GP - Injured
Ortio: 16GP
Backstrom: Soon to be 1GP
Hiller: 24GP
You were saying?
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This is such a silly argument...
Even if you start the analysis the night Ramo got hurt, at which point the Flames were still in the playoff race and Ortio had shown nothing in the NHL this season, the starts are: 9 for Hiller and 12 for Ortio.
If you start the analysis the first time Ortio got to start after the injury, thus the first chance he got to show what his current form was, the starts are: 5 for Hiller and 12 for Ortio.
If you start the analysis the first time Ortio showed his game had returned to form, the starts are: 2 for Hiller and 11 for Ortio.
None of those lead to a conclusion that Hiller is the Flames current #1.
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03-20-2016, 12:35 PM
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#45
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
You should've heard Pat and Rob on the radio yesterday. Apparently Jonas has all but given up in practices - he really isn't into it. He knows he won't get another job here next year.
What's the point?
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Do you see who we're playing against? TOR traded their best goalie at the deadline. They don't care about winning. Against teams like that I think we should be starting our worst goalie. They wanna go shamelessly for the draft pick all year? Then they deserve to see everybody's backup.
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03-20-2016, 01:25 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
The Flames are a classy organization, they will give vets every opportunity to find their game, especially when the games mean nothing. They know that Hiller is likely done in the NHL, but benching him for the last month would seal his fate.
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This is a classy post!
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03-20-2016, 01:27 PM
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#47
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Powerplay Quarterback
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They aren't giving hiller the net out of respect, they're tanking
That's the only logical reason to ever start hiller for the flames again. Period
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03-20-2016, 01:30 PM
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#48
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stone hands
They aren't giving hiller the net out of respect, they're tanking
That's the only logical reason to ever start hiller for the flames again. Period
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Why can't it be both at the same time? Doing a veteran a solid while maximizing our chances to lose against non-playoff teams on the road.
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03-20-2016, 01:35 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stone hands
Not a fan of this obvious tanking from a viewership perspective, but whatever from a drafting perspective
Probably not going to watch this game out of principle because I can't stand watching hiller anymore. Makes me physically ill to see the flames completely crumble in front of my eyes every time he's in net
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Iv'e been watching the Flames for 25 years don't think iv'e ever been ill watching them win, or lose  . Come on physically ill, you can't be serious?
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03-20-2016, 01:38 PM
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#50
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Powerplay Quarterback
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100% serious - when beazley has announced his name this year i get that feeling of dread in my stomach you got when your teacher sent you to the prinicpals office. Then when he lets in 4+ softies a game its like someones kicking my dog and i can't watch anymore
he makes the flames completely unwatchable
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03-20-2016, 01:39 PM
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#51
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stone hands
They aren't giving hiller the net out of respect, they're tanking
That's the only logical reason to ever start hiller for the flames again. Period
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Why did they start Ortio 8 out of the last 9 games then?
Let me guess. Ortio played so well that he cost the team too many Matthews points, so Hartley decided he would stop that madness right in its tracks and that's why Hiller is starting? To purposely lose the game and drop one more game under .500? All this despite the fact that Hartley gets paid to WIN games? You're basically saying that Hartley got marching orders from above to purposely lose. Are you really comfortable with that conspiracy theory?
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03-20-2016, 01:45 PM
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#52
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
Why did they start Ortio 8 out of the last 9 games then?
Let me guess. Ortio played so well that he cost the team too many Matthews points, so Hartley decided he would stop that madness right in its tracks and that's why Hiller is starting? To purposely lose the game and drop one more game under .500? All this despite the fact that Hartley gets paid to WIN games? You're basically saying that Hartley got marching orders from above to purposely lose. Are you really comfortable with that conspiracy theory?
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Probably because the only other goalie in the system who is capable of playing at an nhl level got hurt and fans would revolt if we had to sit through 30 games of a guy who can't see pucks farther out than the ringette line?
If you think winning is in the flames best interest long term at this point in the year, I've got a bridge in new york to sell you
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03-20-2016, 01:45 PM
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#53
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stone hands
100% serious - when beazley has announced his name this year i get that feeling of dread in my stomach you got when your teacher sent you to the prinicpals office. Then when he lets in 4+ softies a game its like someones kicking my dog and i can't watch anymore
he makes the flames completely unwatchable
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But when Beesley doesn't announce his name and he comes in with 9 minutes left, he's unstoppable!
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03-20-2016, 01:50 PM
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#54
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stone hands
Probably because the only other goalie in the system who is capable of playing at an nhl level got hurt and fans would revolt if we had to sit through 30 games of a guy who can't see pucks farther out than the ringette line?
If you think winning is in the flames best interest long term at this point in the year, I've got a bridge in new york to sell you
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There would be no revolt and you know it. They could've split the duties 50/50 at least if they were actually interested in losing. The Flames aren't even good at tanking if they think this one game matters one iota in terms of draft positioning. Look at the percentages for the lottery and tell me the Flames are tanking for one game.
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03-20-2016, 01:57 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
There would be no revolt and you know it. They could've split the duties 50/50 at least if they were actually interested in losing. The Flames aren't even good at tanking if they think this one game matters one iota in terms of draft positioning. Look at the percentages for the lottery and tell me the Flames are tanking for one game.
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Please stop trying to debate this rationally.
When it comes to goalies, only emotionally charged hyperbole is acceptable.
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03-20-2016, 02:17 PM
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#56
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Want one of the Finns, so do what you do, Hiller/Backstrom.
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03-20-2016, 02:26 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Backstrom v the Wild is neat though.Give him a tune up game tonight, few more practices, then a chance against his old team.
Screw the Hiller talk, I don't even want to get into that, but playing Backstrom is classy. Even if he's likely no better than Hiller.
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03-20-2016, 02:59 PM
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#58
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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Jonas Hiller is 3 wins away from 200 in his NHL career. Here's hoping he gets an opportunity to get there.
Regardless of how tough a season he's had, he's still a Calgary Flame and I'm rooting for him.
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03-20-2016, 03:22 PM
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#59
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
Jonas Hiller is 3 wins away from 200 in his NHL career. Here's hoping he gets an opportunity to get there.
Regardless of how tough a season he's had, he's still a Calgary Flame and I'm rooting for him.
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True, although he may need to play 10 games to get those 3 wins.
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03-20-2016, 04:01 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
True, although he may need to play 10 games to get those 3 wins.
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i"ll give him 11 to try.
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