2016 NHL Draft

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

I don't know if I take Dubois over Chychrun
Right now my ranking would be
1. Matthews
2/3. The Finns (don't have a strong preference)
4. Chychrun
5. Tkachuk
6. Nylander
7. Dubois

After that I have no clue.

1/2/3 I don't really have any preference, any of them would be awesome.

4/5 are a coin toss that will get closer to being sorted out once the balance of the season is completed (chychrun and Dubois)

6/7/8/9 are also a coin toss between Tkachuk/Nylander/Sergachev/Julolevi

At least most of those guys are really good.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

1/2/3 I don't really have any preference, any of them would be awesome.

4/5 are a coin toss that will get closer to being sorted out once the balance of the season is completed (chychrun and Dubois)

6/7/8/9 are also a coin toss between Tkachuk/Nylander/Sergachev/Julolevi

At least most of those guys are really good.

The nice thing about Dubois is other teams may take a pass on him and he could slide to us if we land in say the 7 spot.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Not that it means a damn, but I have Dubois 4th. Size, speed, 200ft game, plays with an edge/mean player, good puck distributor, good scorer and plays a very mature game. He also has something I really value in players - that non-stop motor that just never quits. I think he fits the Flames perfectly with all those attributes.

It wouldn't surprise me if someone picks Dubois over one of the Finns. He has been climbing steadily.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Not that it means a damn, but I have Dubois 4th. Size, speed, 200ft game, plays with an edge/mean player, good puck distributor, good scorer and plays a very mature game. He also has something I really value in players - that non-stop motor that just never quits. I think he fits the Flames perfectly with all those attributes.

It wouldn't surprise me if someone picks Dubois over one of the Finns. He has been climbing steadily.

Is his skating really that good?

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

1/2/3 I don't really have any preference, any of them would be awesome.

4/5 are a coin toss that will get closer to being sorted out once the balance of the season is completed (chychrun and Dubois)

6/7/8/9 are also a coin toss between Tkachuk/Nylander/Sergachev/Julolevi

At least most of those guys are really good.

For me anyway Gauthier has to be in that third grouping too and maybe McLeod.

With Gauthier and McLeod's skating and skill set combined with size and McLeod playing such a premium position... depending on what teams need, I could see both going ahead of all of those guys except maybe Tkachuk. Seems like every year forwards get picked above defenders with similar potential because of the quicker impact and easier transition they seem to have.

It's actually looking like a really good draft in the top 10. I am really hoping for a top 3 pick but I think the Flames will do really well as long as they are in the top 6 or 7.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

Is his skating really that good?

I think it is. I haven't ever seen it be a weakness. I don't see how this kid isn't in the NHL next season.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Matty81

For me anyway Gauthier has to be in that third grouping too and maybe McLeod.

With Gauthier and McLeod's skating and skill set combined with size and McLeod playing such a premium position... depending on what teams need, I could see both going ahead of all of those guys except maybe Tkachuk. Seems like every year forwards get picked above defenders with similar potential because of the quicker impact and easier transition they seem to have.

It's actually looking like a really good draft in the top 10. I am really hoping for a top 3 pick but I think the Flames will do really well as long as they are in the top 6 or 7.

McLeod, Gauthier, and Bean are probably in the 4th group from 10-12 and then everyone else. There's not much of a separation in my opinion from anyone 1-5, then Tkachuk then again with 7-12. You could easily justify anyone from 7-12 in any order. All depends on what you're looking for.

[mile]

Red line did a report card on Dubois in January:
http://www.redlinereport.com/wp-cont...nuary-2016.pdf

Scouting Report:
His move to centre this season has taken his game to new heights. He’s got the size, hands, hockey sense, and creativity to become a true #1 centre in the NHL. Add in his dedication to getting better, mental make-up, and willingness to compete hard on every shift in all three zones, and he’s a fairly wart-proof prospect. The only minor pitfall is that he lacks first step explosion and a separation gear at the top end in his stride right now - but he is working on it diligently.

It's a tough one for me between him or Chychrun at #4. He sounds like he could project to be an amazing center, or an amazing winger if the Flames want to keep Bennett at center(which is what I want).

[MrMastodonFarm]

If Calgary selects at two or three I'm not convinced one of the Finns is the sure pick. Dubois is been moving up steadily in the rankings since the start of the season and IMO he's only cementing himself as a top pick as the season ends.

From Elite Prospects.

A dexterous and driven competitor that has all the makings of a dynamic two-way winger. Not the most electric skater, but is shifty and plays to the extent of his physical capabilities; he knows his limits and plays within them, which facilitates a student-like approach to the growth of his game. Possesses high hockey-IQ and is consistent in his efforts. Not the most physical player, but is when he needs to be. All-in-all, Dubois is an invaluable all-around player who plays in all situations and exceeds expectations when the opportunity arises. (Curtis Joe, EP 2016)

A top-end talent that impacts all aspects of the game from different angles. May well be the most complete player in the 2016 NHL Entry Draft. His multidimensional play and elite offensive prowess reminds scouts a little bit of James Neal. Competitiveness marks his game and he consistently proves to be a high impact player when he is on the ice

. - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player....QgSRZ3kr.dpuf

[saillias]

Conroy on the Fan right now. He keeps on running the online draft simulator and the Flames pick 6th, meanwhile the Oilers keep winning in his simulations

[Poe969]

I think the way things have been going recently, the "tier" ranking has to be changed. Matthews is still the clear cut #1 but I'm starting to put Chychrun and Dubois in the same category as the Finns. To me, having a pick at 5 is just about as good as having 2,3 or 4. All of those guys could probably step into the NHL next year and fit in and contribute. The next tier of guys is Tkachuk/Nylander/Sergachev/Julolevi and then there's a bit of a drop off from there. I had high hopes for Gauthier but he hasn't really done much, he still might turn out to be a steal but he's borderline top 10.

[sureLoss]

FWIW Conroy said in his opinion Chychrun won't play in the NHL next year.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

FWIW Conroy said in his opinion Chychrun won't play in the NHL next year.

He will if he goes to Edmonton

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

FWIW Conroy said in his opinion Chychrun won't play in the NHL next year.

If the Flames drafted him, there wouldn't be much point having him in the NHL next year. With so many expiring contracts + guys like Jokipakka and Nakladal needing time, it'll be tough to find room for Chychrun.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

If the Flames drafted him, there wouldn't be much point having him in the NHL next year. With so many expiring contracts + guys like Jokipakka and Nakladal needing time, it'll be tough to find room for Chychrun.

Well sure, but he was more commenting on whether Chychrun was NHL ready, which some people suggest he is.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

If Calgary selects at two or three I'm not convinced one of the Finns is the sure pick. Dubois is been moving up steadily in the rankings since the start of the season and IMO he's only cementing himself as a top pick as the season ends.

From Elite Prospects.
. - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player....QgSRZ3kr.dpuf

I think the Finns are more explosive, more dynamic. I think it would be really hard to turn them down. Especially with them being right shooters as well which we really lack up front.

I think Dubois is in the same range as Tkachuk, just a notch below the Finns. There's 5 forwards I really like at the top end so there's a very good chance our pick ends up being one of those five.

[Frequitude]

Draft pick odds using Enoch Root's standings-pick percentages combined with sportsclubstats.com's final standings probabilities as of today. They haven't updated the weightings based projections for a week so I just used the 50/50 projections.



(Numbers don't quite add to 100% in some cases because I just used sportsclubstats summary table which only shows to the nearest whole percent).

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Frequitude

Draft pick odds using Enoch Root's standings-pick percentages combined with sportsclubstats.com's final standings probabilities as of today. They haven't updated the weightings based projections for a week so I just used the 50/50 projections.



(Numbers don't quite add to 100% in some cases because I just used sportsclubstats summary table which only shows to the nearest whole percent).

This makes me so frigging mad.

Thanks Oilers. You inept pieces of crap.

[GranteedEV]

Conroy brought out Marian Hossa as a comparable to "the Finns" (though I think that was more Puljujarvi, as we've brought up that comparable over here too). Interesting stuff.

[sureLoss]

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
On the draft, some scouts/GMs I talked to last week were discussing whether Juolevi might displace Tkachuk as consensus No. 4 after Big 3.