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GioforPM · 02-23-2016, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Just posters who try to argue when they have no clue what they're talking about annoys me. GioforPm said Brodie was on the ice and pinched and that's why Colborne was playing the point.

Brodie wasn't on the ice. It was one defenceman and Colborne. Brodie and Gio played the first pp unit and then he came on.

I get annoyed by people who can't use plurals.

Gaudfather · 02-23-2016, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryH93

I hope the Flames continue to show the effort they showed tonight for the rest of the season, but I do not want too many wins from those games. Honestly, the only point of winning games now is for pride. We're not going to make the playoffs, and we're better off playing good games and losing (like tonight), gaining that experience, and getting a high pick to continue to the rebuild. I would hate to see us outside of the top 5 in the draft. Keep the losses entertaining, boys!

I agree - keep it close, but don't prevail. If they play like tonight at the Saddledome, maybe we will see the same thing we saw in 2014 where the crowd was giving them a standing ovation even if they lost!

dino7c · 02-23-2016, 11:47 PM

Joe is out there to stand in front of the net for the 6 on 5...not sure how many high end players some of you think the Flames have

hockey.modern · 02-23-2016, 11:47 PM

Interesting Stat: Sam Bennett led all forwards in TOI (20:23)

AC · 02-23-2016, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Realtor 1

Watched it start to finish. I am not sure what you are saying. Ferland had a solid game until the bench for shorter.

It was my understanding that ferland was scratched up until the last minute.

Gotcha, thought you were saying "why did Hartley scratch Ferland?"

Not sure I understand why you're questioning Hartley for almost (but not actually) scratching him then. Seems that he agreed with you, and probably why he played Bollig (unfortunately since I don't think he makes a difference against meaner teams).

GioforPM · 02-23-2016, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by calgaryblood

No you said in the GT another d-man pinched and I asked you who it was and you said Brodie since Gio and Hamilton play the first unit when in fact it was Brodie and Gio who were playing together that pp.

Don't back pedal now you said the only reason Colborne was playing the point was because a d-man pinched.

There were four forwards on the ice. Jones, Backlund, Bennett, and Colborne. Nakladal and Colborne were playing the point the entire time even after the whistle.

No, you asked who was on with Nakladal and I said Brodie. I never actually said who pinched (but it was Nakladl, who played the right side).

Travis Munroe · 02-23-2016, 11:48 PM

AC - the pre game report had ferland scratched.
Gio for pm- I'll take your word for it. I thought after the timeout we had our top guys + Joe

And I agree with Itse 100%. - it is not bashing on Joe. It's not understanding some of the positions he is put in. He is a very serviceable 3rd liner with potential of 2nd if he bulked up and played with a edge but is often given roles that just don't make sense to me.

MrMastodonFarm · 02-23-2016, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Kings 2, Flames 1 - Calgary Mona-can't score more than 1 goal!

I'm not going to rant and rave about how these thread titles embarrass CP to the media like some old loon... but they are pretty annoying to read. You should never start a thread by asking yourself "What would Gene Principe do?"

Travis Munroe · 02-23-2016, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AC

Gotcha, thought you were saying "why did Hartley scratch Ferland?"

Not sure I understand why you're questioning Hartley for almost (but not actually) scratching him then. Seems that he agreed with you, and probably why he played Bollig (unfortunately since I don't think he makes a difference against meaner teams).

Again, it is my understanding that something came up with Stajan preventing him from playing which is why ferland was drawn in but I may be wrong.

calgaryblood · 02-23-2016, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

No, you asked who was on with Nakladal and I said Brodie. I never actually said who pinched (but it was Nakladl, who played the right side).

You'd still be wrong. Brodie was on with Gio and Nakladal was on with Colborne. Why can't you just be a man and admit you were wrong?

GioforPM · 02-23-2016, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Realtor 1

AC - the pre game report had ferland scratched.
Gio for pm- I'll take your word for it. I thought after the timeout we had our top guys + Joe

And I agree with Itse 100%. - it is not bashing on Joe. It's not understanding some of the positions he is put in. He is a very serviceable 3rd liner with potential of 2nd if he bulked up and played with a edge but is often given roles that just don't make sense to me.

I doubt he will ever get better than he is now. He's had enough time, obviously. I'm not sure he need to bulk up because he seems to do fine physically when he decides to play that way - it just doesn't happen enough. Remember him manhandling Horvat in the POs? He can do it when he applies himself. He's a frustrating player all right. But he wasn't the issue tonight, or this year for that matter.

AC · 02-23-2016, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Realtor 1

Again, it is my understanding that something came up with Stajan preventing him from playing which is why ferland was drawn in but I may be wrong.

Oh, no I don't think so.

Millions said:

@RogMillions
Matt Stajan is the odd man out in LA. Ferland in as Bob Hartley tells me he had a change of heart this afternoon
https://twitter.com/RogMillions/stat...36055513460736

GranteedEV · 02-23-2016, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Interesting Stat: Sam Bennett led all forwards in TOI (20:23)

The Beginning of Samathan Bennettoews

Travis Munroe · 02-23-2016, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AC

Oh, no I don't think so.

Millions said:

@RogMillions
Matt Stajan is the odd man out in LA. Ferland in as Bob Hartley tells me he had a change of heart this afternoon
https://twitter.com/RogMillions/stat...36055513460736

Ah, fair enough then. Just knew ferland was the odd man out in practic and thought I heard the pre game show mention a issue with Stajan.
Still should have been a no brainer to have Ferland in the lineup and not have been a last minute change of heart imo

GioforPM · 02-23-2016, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by calgaryblood

You'd still be wrong. Brodie was on with Gio and Nakladal was on with Colborne. Why can't you just be a man and admit you were wrong?

I already said I'm sure you are right because you are so certain. But then again, I didn't say it was Brodie who pinched.

Anyway, if that was the line, it was odd, certainly. But for some reason, Colborne, playing the point, was also in front of the net. Why do you suppose that happened?

AC · 02-23-2016, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Realtor 1

Ah, fair enough then. Just knew ferland was the odd man out in practic and thought I heard the pre game show mention a issue with Stajan.
Still should have been a no brainer to have Ferland in the lineup and not have been a last minute change of heart imo

Yeah I agree. I think Bennett's transition to centre (and how he's been handling it) is a big reason we cut ties with Granlund. It might also be a big reason why Stajan suddenly looks more expendable when we can use Jooris as the 4th line C.

Karl · 02-23-2016, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Realtor 1

Again, it is my understanding that something came up with Stajan preventing him from playing which is why ferland was drawn in but I may be wrong.

FWIW sureloss posted this in the GT

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

Millions says Hartley told him there was a change of heart on Stajan.

So no trade if you believe Hartley.

Looks like Hartley changed his mind and decided to play Ferland instead of Stajan as a coach's decision.

GioforPM · 02-23-2016, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Realtor 1

Ah, fair enough then. Just knew ferland was the odd man out in practic and thought I heard the pre game show mention a issue with Stajan.
Still should have been a no brainer to have Ferland in the lineup and not have been a last minute change of heart imo

I think Ferland thus far is one of those guys who has needed a benching to remind him to put out the effort he needs to be effective. To his credit he has responded fairly well each time. Hopefully he grows out the inconsistency issue.

Frankly, I'd have had him over Bollig though. I think they are redundant and Ferland's toolbox is so much bigger.

flamesfan1297 · 02-23-2016, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I'm not going to rant and rave about how these thread titles embarrass CP to the media like some old loon... but they are pretty annoying to read. You should never start a thread by asking yourself "What would Gene Principe do?"

Agreed. Originally it was just " kings 2, Flames 1" but then he edited it.

calgaryblood · 02-24-2016, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

I already said I'm sure you are right because you are so certain. But then again, I didn't say it was Brodie who pinched.

Anyway, if that was the line, it was odd, certainly. But for some reason, Colborne, playing the point, was also in front of the net. Why do you suppose that happened?

No idea as it was Jones who was in front of the net pretty much the entire time he was on the pp. Colborne and Nakladal were the ones responsible to go retrieve the puck and who started on the point after the whistle. You'd have to ask Colborne why he went to the front of the net when there were 4 forwards on the ice and no one covering for him.

Either way done with this subject but Colborne was definitely playing the point and not just covering for a pinching d-man which is a very strange decision by Hartley.