[Trade] Markus Granlund to Van for Shinkaruk

[Stealth22]

BT on the trade...

- Looking at this (Shinkaruk?) for a while
- Thanked Granlund for his service
- Moved lots of young players to our team quickly...need to continue to build our pipeline of prospects (not a great deal of depth in skill positions)
- Scoring goals at the NHL level is difficult...Hunter has done nothing but score; doesn't translate to NHL level automatically, but its an area of need for the Flames
- Number of players at the centre position for the Flames; Drew Shore and Bill Arnold in the minors
- Markus' contract is up, plus waiver eligible at the end of the season; risk exposing him to waivers later on
- Wants to caution fans that Shinkaruk is NOT at the NHL-ready stage yet, still work to be done; but down the road, he can fill a need for us, which is score goals
- Hunter is a competitive player; Flames like that about him and want him to continually improve
- At the junior level, you can beat other teams with raw skill; but need to fine-tune that for the NHL level because you're playing against "redwoods" on the blue line
- Things that stood out with Hunter for the Flames: Competitiveness, quickness, willingness to score goals
- Has potential to be a top six forward; still has a ways to go, but the Flames want to work with him and bring him to that level
- Don't normally see teams deal with div. rivals, and this is our 2nd deal with VAN in recent times
- First had conversations with VAN about this a few months ago
- Evaluated players, determined areas of need; once you make your wish list, many of those players aren't available
- Giving up a good player in Markus Granlund; need to make sure that its the best move for the organization moving forward
- Talked about it internally in the last few weeks, came together in the last few days
- Tried Granlund on the wing in the minors; he is able to play the wing, but wasn't all that comfortable. One of Markus' greatest strength is his hockey IQ. Good to have those players at any position is good, but best to have it at center. And Markus just didn't seem comfortable at wing
- Flames didn't project Markus to be in the top six long-term; not a bad thing, as you need players in all positions. But with the waiver situation and the rest of the roster, this was the correct move to make

[dammage79]

Waiver status was an issue next season for Granny. Buys the Flames a year of added flexibility in terms of roster moves.

[ComixZone]

"It's time to kick it into overdrive and try to get up there and try to help Calgary win." - Hunter Shinkaruk

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

His nickname is now Overdrive.

[nik-]

wtf ... what a time to be away from CP.

What the hell happened?

[Fire in the disco]

Monahan
Poirier
Klimchuk
Shinkaruk

All of those names are hard to spell correctly!!

[Gaudfather]

Shinkaruk on Fan 960 " I haven't wiped the smile from my face since this deal was announced" !

[DomeFoam]

Originally Posted by nik-

wtf ... what a time to be away from CP.

What the hell happened?

Granlund got traded to Van for Shinkaruk

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Fire in the disco

Monahan
Poirier
Klimchuk
Shinkaruk

All of those names are hard to spell correctly!!

They're harder than Grandlund, that's for sure!

[TheScorpion]

Down Goes Brown ‏@DownGoesBrown 2m2 minutes ago
I bet Granlund turns out to be really good and everyone loves him but then he gets shut down for no good reason.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

I wonder what Shinkaruk would be worth right now in terms of draft picks. Did the Flames get as much or more for Markus Granlund than we did for Baertschi?

Baertschi's return was a late second-round pick. Granlund's return was a former late first-round pick who is three years further along in his development than a 2016 draft pick would be -- and he has been developing well.

31 points in 74 AHL games last season as a 20 year-old; and 39 points in 45 AHL games this season as a 21 year-old. Shinkaruk had worse numbers than Poirier last season, but better this season. I'd say he's developing well for his draft position.


So, just based on that, I'd say that Granlund got a better return than Baertschi.

Also, Shinkaruk is probably a better return than what the Flames would have picked if they had gotten the Canucks' second-rounder this season. A late first-rounder from the very deep 2013 Draft is likely better value than an early second-rounder from the not-as-deep 2016 Draft.

[saXon]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

Wow, I just read the HF thread and are Canucks fans ever having a meltdown about this one.

Seriously hilarious.

Hope Shinkaruk becomes a player, some payback for the Baertschi move.

Every time I see this I don't understand it.

Andersson is shaping up to be quite the prospect for a 2nd rounder.

Baertschi was what Baertschi was, a kid that couldn't crack the lineup fulltime and remains to be a .4 ppg player in the NHL that has trouble playing in all 3 zones.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Down Goes Brown ‏@DownGoesBrown 2m2 minutes ago
I bet Granlund turns out to be really good and everyone loves him but then he gets shut down for no good reason.

?

what is he referring to?

[Ring of Fire]

http://thehockeywriters.com/hunter-s...spect-profile/

http://www.defendingbigd.com/2013/6/...couting-report

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

?

what is he referring to?

Do you recognize the tweeter? I mean, you should, but if you don't, the joke'll take some 'splaining.

[CaptainCrunch]

The future Complete Jerkface line

Shinkaruk-Bennett-Ferland.

[Hockey]

[Erick Estrada]

Some of the Flames players haven't exactly excelled in Stockton. I understand there will be an adjustment period going to a new team/system but hope Hunter's numbers don't totally nosedive.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

They're harder than Granlund, that's for sure!

People can't even spell Bennett properly, so I've given up hope.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Do you recognize the tweeter? I mean, you should, but if you don't, the joke'll take some 'splaining.

yes, I just don't know where he is going with that line

[Stealth22]

Didn't get as much from this one, but here is the Shinkaruk interview. Kept saying that he was "really excited".

- Great day; very exciting day for him and his family. Hasn't washed the smile off his face yet
- Lot of emotions on draft day. There were "thoughts" running through his mind when CGY didn't pick him; but was still great to have VAN pick him, and was a great day in his life. Now feels great to be with CGY.
- Enjoyed his time with the Canucks; very grateful for everything he was given in Vancouver. "That being said, today is a very exciting day for me"
- Worked hard in the summer, feels great to have been rewarded this year in Utica
- "Every day, I want to play hockey, and be the best player that I can be"
- Whether he is NHL-ready is up to Calgary; all he can do is go out there every day and play the best he can