[Trade] Markus Granlund to Van for Shinkaruk

[jaginla]

Originally Posted by jar_e

What's Shinkaruk's ceiling?

If we were to listen to my canucks coworker when they drafted him. Patty Kane?

[CaptainCrunch]

I think that they'll keep him on the farm for now.

[Dion]

From HF Canucks

Originally Posted by JuniorNelson
I'm going downtown right now. If I see Benning I will try to fight him.

Originally Posted by Baby Shinkaruk Moderator
My name wtf.

[BruceCody]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Shinkaruk goes to his hometown.

no, but little closer (from Utica to Stockton)

[Mony]

His draft profile from 2013:

FAVORITES

NHL team: Montreal Canadiens
NHL player: Sidney Crosby
Goal celebration: “Knee swipe, jump into glass”
Video game: NHL
Movie: The Hangover
TV show: Entourage
Actor: Mila Kunis
Musician: Jason Aldean
Website: Twitter
Pump-up Song: “Pop That” by French Montana
Home-cooked meal: Steak, mashed potatoes, Caesar salad

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by codynw

Nope. He's out long term with a broken jaw.

Assuming you mean Derek Grant.

Oh yeah thats right! Yes thats who I meant.

[calumniate]

I didn't know the canucks would have room on their NHL roster right now. I thought they had 5 centres up at this time?

[CsInMyBlood]

Wow, I just read the HF thread and are Canucks fans ever having a meltdown about this one.

Seriously hilarious.

Hope Shinkaruk becomes a player, some payback for the Baertschi move.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Mony

His draft profile from 2013:

FAVORITES

NHL team: Montreal Canadiens
NHL player: Sidney Crosby
Goal celebration: “Knee swipe, jump into glass”
Video game: NHL
Movie: The Hangover
TV show: Entourage
Actor: Mila Kunis
Musician: Jason Aldean
Website: Twitter
Pump-up Song: “Pop That” by French Montana
Home-cooked meal: Steak, mashed potatoes, Caesar salad

Really stupid questions aside, the Habs? Wut?

[Ring of Fire]

Scoring ability is the defining skill that Hunter Shinkaruk brings to the table. Undersized and overmatched physically, Shinkaruk has that rare hockey sense that goal scorers possess with his ability to be in the right place at the right time. ... Shinkaruk’s playmaking ability is not elite, but it’s a strength of his game and something he uses to keep the defense off balance in terms of what he’s going to do. Overall, however, NHL teams will have to question how his 200-foot game translates to the NHL level at his size.

Craig Button:
...very determined and competitive offensive player. He has very good skating ability with speed, quickness, change of pace, agility and excellent balance, which allows him to play in traffic and versus bigger players without being nullified. He's hungry to score and will pay the price to score and get to the scoring areas. He has very good hands and can beat goaltenders in a variety of ways and he is able to make those plays quickly and in tight areas.

http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2013...k-medicine-hat

[metal_geek]

Like this trade if for no other reason then the roster flexibility and an asset management view point.

That being said I watched him play live a few weeks ago. Was there with my son and we were paying attention to him as one of the more recognizable prospects playing in the game. Physically he was smaller height wise then most of the players but he was very "square". He was quite strong I saw him out muscle bigger players along the board on several occasions. He would also throw little hits, shoulders, elbows skating by d-men after a puck was cleared from the zone. He reminded me of Bennett the way he would cut across the ice and sort of throw himself into a body check.

The kid has pretty good vision. Playing on the half wall on power plays he often was the goto to control the puck. He made a few good cross ice passes, and was pretty good retrieving the puck after a shot from the other side. He was pressured off the puck a couple times but was kind of obvious what Utica was trying to do in the pp. He skates well, short strong strides with a good cross over power move kinda thing. His shot was quick, not sure how hard or heavy it was but he got it off quickly.

Gotta say didn't take long before you could notice him on the ice. A comparable on the flames would definatly be sam Bennett physically, but skill wise he looks more like ferland without the size. Dunno if he has top 6 potential I'm no scout but....to me he seems like the perfect 3rd line LW.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

Wow, I just read the HF thread and are Canucks fans ever having a meltdown about this one.

Seriously hilarious.

Hope Shinkaruk becomes a player, some payback for the Baertschi move.

I'll take Rasmus Andersson 10 times out of 10 over Sven. Don't see the need for any payback.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

Why do so many people think attitude is a problem, some very good NHL players thrived on having a bad attitude. Bobby Clark was one of them, Theoren Fleury, Mark Messier, they all thrived on winning but played with an edge. If anything the Flames don't have enough players that people hate to play against. We are not in this to build a toy truck we are in this to build a mean machine!

I don't think anyone was talking about Shinkaruk's on-ice attitude, or how he is to play against.

[hockey.modern]

Wonder if we see Agostino/Hamilton called up now?

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

Hope Shinkaruk becomes a player, some payback for the Baertschi move.

What was wrong with the Baertschi trade? I would say it was fair market value for a sulking, soft underachiever who demanded a trade.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Weisbrod once compared Granlund's talent/skill to Gaudreau's, so no doubt he was influential in this trade. Guessing this is a situation were one team really wanted a player and was willing to pay for him, not unlike the Avs/Roy really wanting Berra and paid more than perceived value

Jesus, if Weisbrod actually believes that he's the worst evaluator of talent in the world and shouldn't be anywhere near an NHL franchise.

Now I'm irrationally concerned about the Jankowski pick all of a sudden.

[Gaudfather]

I sense that the modus operandi here for the Flames is that they are looking to build their upfront skill with an edge. I suspect they like what they see from Bennett in this respect and are hoping Shinkaruk can develop in a similar mode on the wing.

[sureLoss]

Treliving on why they didn't try Granlund on the wing:

tried him on wing in the minors but he wasn't comfortable playing there
thinks his hockey iq is better suited for center
when projecting him don't see him as being a true top 6 forward

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by Gaudfather

I sense that the modus operandi here for the Flames is that they are looking to build their upfront skill with an edge. I suspect they like what they see from Bennett in this respect and are hoping Shinkaruk can develop in a similar mode on the wing.

Judging by listening to Treliving right now, his competitiveness is a big factor as to why he made this trade. Him and Bennett sounds like an interesting line that competes to win

[PeteMoss]

I like the trade. Granlund just seems like a tweener, no idea what shinkaruk will become.