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Old 02-09-2016, 11:55 AM   #161
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Leafs don't gain cap space for next year...although they could move some other guys still
yeah, but they don't really need it next year - there's about 18m coming off the books this summer for UFAs and I don't think they'll try to retain many of those. But by getting rid of Phaneuf, they free up a lot of cap long-term which will help if they indeed sign Stamkos.

Plus they could always buyout Greening and Michalek this summer. That would free up 4.7m next season as well (2.4m would count against the cap in 2017-18, however). Worth it if they need it.
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Old 02-09-2016, 11:55 AM   #162
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This has probably been said dozens of times but haven't read the thread, the Leafs didn't help the Sens they made them worse by giving them such a low hockey IQ defenceman.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:12 PM   #163
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The biggest winner in this trade is Dion himself

I hope he does well in Ottawa
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:14 PM   #164
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Phaneuf is overpaid but he's still a serviceable defenseman in the NHL. I think he's a great second pairing guy. It's just that contract. That would be hard to swallow if I were a Sens fan.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:15 PM   #165
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Why is Dion checking in with a bunch of hockey sticks? Doesn't each team have Equipment Managers? Would they just not courier these sticks? What a pain in the butt if he has to haul these sticks around with a connecting flight. Love it.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:17 PM   #166
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Why is Dion checking in with a bunch of hockey sticks? Doesn't each team have Equipment Managers? Would they just not courier these sticks? What a pain in the butt if he has to haul these sticks around with a connecting flight. Love it.
I would imagine his now current equipment managers are waiting for him in Ottawa.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:20 PM   #167
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I see they let him keep his hockey bag.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:25 PM   #168
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I see they let him keep his hockey bag.
Don't speak of his wife that way...
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:27 PM   #170
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Even though he's been traded, isn't he still officially the Leafs' captain until the Governor General accepts his resignation and appoints a successor?
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Even though he's been traded, isn't he still officially the Leafs' captain until the Governor General accepts his resignation and appoints a successor?
I always assumed the Leafs' Captain was the Governor General
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:53 PM   #172
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I wonder if he's gonna walk right into the Sens dressing room and turn the music up.
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I wonder if he's gonna walk right into the Sens dressing room and turn the music up.
In a show of brazen leadership he will turn the music down.
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Old 02-09-2016, 01:07 PM   #174
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Hard to judge - Phaneuf is a trainwreck. He can't skate anymore. Can't really shoot all that well. Misjudges plays. IQ of an empty paper bag.

But - is he worse than Cowen, Borowiecki, or Wiercioch? That's the question. I am not sure if people on CP understand how terrible the Sens defense is beyond Karlsson and Methot, and Ceci when not being overplayed.

Can they handle that brutal salary for four more years? Only if Phaneuf can live up to second pairing standards.

Michalek was good for the Sens - killed penalties, anchored a second line when healthy, but injured a lot. Watching Karlsson's interview, he was a close friend to EK as well.

Getting rid of Greening and Cowen's salaries (a pair of terrible signings by Bryan Murray) is a definite plus and I'm sure Sens fans will be celebrating. Time will tell if Phaneuf's salary and play will make up for this cap dump.
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Old 02-09-2016, 01:08 PM   #175
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Why is Dion checking in with a bunch of hockey sticks? Doesn't each team have Equipment Managers? Would they just not courier these sticks? What a pain in the butt if he has to haul these sticks around with a connecting flight. Love it.
Custom pro-stock. (lie, curve, weight, flex). A chance new Equipment guy doesn't have em.
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Old 02-09-2016, 01:19 PM   #176
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How the heck did this caveman get Elisha Cuthbert, oh yeah, money. I wonder if he communicates via foot stomps and grunting.
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Old 02-09-2016, 01:21 PM   #177
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Kind of appropriate that the both times he got traded, he was in Calgary haha
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Old 02-09-2016, 01:24 PM   #178
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Phaneuf isn't as bad as most people thinks he is. If it wasn't for his massive contract with the Leafs, I'm sure he's a great d-man that can really shoot the puck and he will hit you, unlike Wideman who doesn't shoot and doesn't hit. Pair Phaneuf up with a sound defensive d-man and that D-line will be pretty solid.
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April and Elisha sum up my feelings on this trade:

What was this in reference too? I totally forget.
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Old 02-09-2016, 01:26 PM   #180
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How the heck did this caveman get Elisha Cuthbert, oh yeah, money. I wonder if he communicates via foot stomps and grunting.
She has quite a bit of it herself. It has to be something else... but what could it be?
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