02-09-2016, 09:50 AM
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Yeah, I wouldn't want to pair him with Karlsson after the season Karlsson is having. Putting him on the 2nd pair makes a lot of sense from that standpoint. Makes even more sense if, like myself, you feel Dion is a much better 2nd pairing guy than a first pairing, regardless of what he gets paid.
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02-09-2016, 09:50 AM
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#102
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Phaneuf will be better on a more stable defense.
Karlsson, Methot,
However it is pretty telling that they were willing to send their captain to a bitter rival.
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Ottawa's depth might be worse than Toronto's though. You've got Karlsson, and 5 guys who should be #6 or not in the NHL. This is not a case of him going to a team that can shelter him, if anything his minutes will go up.
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Last edited by saillias; 02-09-2016 at 09:52 AM.
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02-09-2016, 09:50 AM
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#103
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Matt Stajan - last man standing in that trade.
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Therefore Calgary won
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02-09-2016, 09:50 AM
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#104
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Since l'm too lazy to do it, does anybody have a salary/contract comparison for both sides?
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02-09-2016, 09:51 AM
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#105
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Well this trade came out of nowhere
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02-09-2016, 09:54 AM
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#106
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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Toronto wins hands down.
-Get rid of Phaneuf and his greasy contract
-Gets a 2nd round pick from a bottom 15 team
-Michelak has been decent in recent years but it's not like he's a terrible play right?
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02-09-2016, 09:56 AM
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#107
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Backup Goalie
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Originally Posted by Toonage
Burke doesn't make the trades here.
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I don't think he's here just to drink coffee and sign cheques!
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02-09-2016, 09:56 AM
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#108
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattman
Toronto wins hands down.
-Get rid of Phaneuf and his greasy contract
-Gets a 2nd round pick from a bottom 15 team
-Michelak has been decent in recent years but it's not like he's a terrible play right?
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And even though Cowan has stagnated a little, some fresh scenery might be good for a defenseman just entering his prime.
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02-09-2016, 09:56 AM
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#109
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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Phanuef in Ottawa instantly brings back memories of this classic hit.
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02-09-2016, 10:02 AM
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#110
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Biggest dufus for many dufuses trade in NHL history
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02-09-2016, 10:03 AM
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#111
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
Since l'm too lazy to do it, does anybody have a salary/contract comparison for both sides?
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Cap hits:
Phaneuf $7m until 2021
Michalek - $4m until 2017
Cowan - $3.1m until 2017
Greening - $2.65m until 2017
Everyone else is on entry level deals I believe. Ottawa actually gains cap space for this year and next.
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02-09-2016, 10:04 AM
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#112
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Milan Michalek is still in the NHL? Really?
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02-09-2016, 10:05 AM
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#113
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattman
Toronto wins hands down.
-Get rid of Phaneuf and his greasy contract
-Gets a 2nd round pick from a bottom 15 team
-Michelak has been decent in recent years but it's not like he's a terrible play right?
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Pick is in 2017... who knows where Ottawa will be then.
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02-09-2016, 10:05 AM
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#114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saillias
Ottawa's depth might be worse than Toronto's though. You've got Karlsson, and 5 guys who should be #6 or not in the NHL. This is not a case of him going to a team that can shelter him, if anything his minutes will go up.
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Disagree. ...Phaneuf will see his minutes go down quite a bit as he is no longer being leaned on to be THE guy as he was in Leafland.
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02-09-2016, 10:07 AM
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#115
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I believe in the Jays.
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Man... good work by the Shanahan people. That's a lot of longterm bad money out the door.
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02-09-2016, 10:09 AM
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#116
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Disagree. ...Phaneuf will see his minutes go down quite a bit as he is no longer being leaned on to be THE guy as he was in Leafland.
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Babcock has been giving him the 3rd hardest minutes, after Reilly and Hunwick. He was no longer in a shutdown role. And playing less on the PK than at any point in his career.
Travis Yost @travisyost12m12 minutes ago
Karlsson has played ~ 67% of his career w/:
Kuba
Phillips
Cowen
Campoli
Borowiecki
Sutton
Hale
Lee
Carkner
I think Phaneuf might help..
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02-09-2016, 10:09 AM
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#117
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I don't think he's here just to drink coffee and sign cheques!
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Correct, he's here to do his job, which is expansive and doesn't involve trades or player movement.
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02-09-2016, 10:10 AM
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#118
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Awww....this is BS!
We play the Leafs tonight and now that Dion isnt playing for them they're actually going to be a better team!
Weaksauce.
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02-09-2016, 10:10 AM
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#119
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Norm!
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Once again Phaneuf is traded for absolute crap.
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02-09-2016, 10:10 AM
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#120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parallex
Man... good work by the Shanahan people. That's a lot of longterm bad money out the door.
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Yea, too bad they're gonna blow that newly found cap space on Stamghost.
And by "too bad" I mean too bad for Leafs fans. I personally don't care.
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