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Old 01-26-2016, 08:25 AM   #5481
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But if the Jets are losing Buff, what would they have to give up for Hamonic? I could see them able to move pieces for him if they have a lot of pieces. I don't know what they'd be able to offer that the Flames or even coilers couldn't beat.
Ladd and Buff as rentals, maybe with some money if cap doesn't work. It might need some balancing, but as the core of a trade it makes sense to me. Two cup winners on expiring contracts motivated to get big contracts in free agency, for a guy that wants to play in Winnipeg and would solidify Jets defence.

Isles are in win now mode. Might be worth it.
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Old 01-26-2016, 08:35 AM   #5482
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I can't see them giving up Hamonic for a couple months of those guys. Hamonic is under contract moving forward and that's what the Isles would want, something that helps them now but they still have to think of the future too. They're going to want at least one player who's young and can make a difference on the team now and could be what they had in Hamonic.
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Old 01-26-2016, 08:57 AM   #5483
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I thought I read somewhere they broke off contract talks with Ladd to focus on resigning Buff?
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I thought I read somewhere they broke off contract talks with Ladd to focus on resigning Buff?
The first time I heard that speculated was during last nights Flames game.
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Old 01-26-2016, 09:03 AM   #5485
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The first time I heard that speculated was during last nights Flames game.
No, there was an article I read - yesterday? - maybe, that said the same thing. It suggested they are trying to keep Buff and move Ladd.

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Sounds like Ladd and the Jets are parting ways:
http://www.tsn.ca/it-s-time-for-the-...-ladd-1.428215

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Old 01-26-2016, 09:09 AM   #5486
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No, there was an article I read - yesterday? - maybe, that said the same thing. It suggested they are trying to keep Buff and move Ladd.
It was posted in this thread by sureloss, before the thread got "BigTuna'ed"
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Old 01-26-2016, 10:18 AM   #5487
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Ducks put Clendening on waivers.

Quite the year for him:

2015-Jan-29 Traded from Chicago Blackhawks to Vancouver Canucks for Gustav Forsling
2015-Jul-28 Traded from Vancouver Canucks with Nick Bonino and round 2 pick in the 2016 draft to Pittsburgh Penguins for Brandon Sutter and round 3 pick in the 2016 draft
2016-Jan-15 Traded from Pittsburgh Penguins with David Perron to Anaheim Ducks for Carl Hagelin

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Old 01-26-2016, 10:28 AM   #5488
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Ducks put Clendening on waivers.

Quite the year for him:

2015-Jan-29 Traded from Chicago Blackhawks to Vancouver Canucks for Gustav Forsling
2015-Jul-28 Traded from Vancouver Canucks with Nick Bonino and round 2 pick in the 2016 draft to Pittsburgh Penguins for Brandon Sutter and round 3 pick in the 2016 draft
2016-Jan-15 Traded from Pittsburgh Penguins with David Perron to Anaheim Ducks for Carl Hagelin
Why even trade for him at all? Bob Murray surely can't afford to be making trade errors right now.

So Hagelin for Perron it is now? Just terrible.
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Old 01-26-2016, 10:50 AM   #5489
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Why even trade for him at all? Bob Murray surely can't afford to be making trade errors right now.

So Hagelin for Perron it is now? Just terrible.
I don't think you get how NHL roster management happens. Do you really think they suddenly soured on him after acquiring him?

MY bet is they saw some value in him as depth if they could sneak him through waivers.
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Old 01-26-2016, 10:58 AM   #5490
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So Hagelin for Perron it is now? Just terrible.
Hagelin had 4 goals in 43 games. He was on pace for 8 goals and under 25 points while having a long-term contract making 4M. This looked like a trade where the Ducks just wanted to get out of Hagelin's contract before it became an albatross for them.

Perron already has 3 points in 3 games with the Ducks, Hagelin has 3 points in 4 with the Penguins. Seems like the start of a solid change-of-scenery trade.
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Old 01-26-2016, 10:59 AM   #5491
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There is something absolutely rotten in Anaheim, and if I had to guess I'd say Kesler and Bieksa are involved.
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There is something absolutely rotten in Anaheim, and if I had to guess I'd say Kesler and Bieksa are involved.
Well just look at how rotten the Nucks have been for so long. Easy for that kind of effect to carry through with players from that team, it's just now having a stranglehold effect on the Ducks. I would not be surprised if it has something to do with Kesler or Kieksa either.
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I said it that cay he signed it, I was shocked Anaheim gave Kesler that contract. He had a full year left till he was UFA. What was the rush?
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Old 01-26-2016, 11:09 AM   #5494
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That dressing room must be toxic these days. You welcome in guys from a poor culture like Bieksa & Kessler, reward Kessler for pretty much doing nothing and bring in ex Oilers like Horcoff and now Perron. They say Getzlaf is a second behind most plays these days. Coincidentally thats about how long it takes a person to shake their head in disbelief.
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Old 01-26-2016, 11:37 AM   #5495
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I personally believe and think Getzlaf will traded before Stamkos ever gets traded. One team is gonna over pay for him. Also that will open the flood-gates for Eric Stall to get traded.
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Old 01-26-2016, 01:37 PM   #5496
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Why even trade for him at all? Bob Murray surely can't afford to be making trade errors right now.

So Hagelin for Perron it is now? Just terrible.
balance salaries?
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Old 01-26-2016, 01:43 PM   #5497
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I said it that cay he signed it, I was shocked Anaheim gave Kesler that contract. He had a full year left till he was UFA. What was the rush?
It is why Ottawa signed Bobby Ryan to that huge deal before he went UFA. When a team invests young assets in a player they trade for they want the certainty that player is going to be there more than 2 years so they get the deal done well in advance. The longer you wait on the extension the more likely a player will test the market. In both cases it resulted in huge overpriced deals
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Old 01-26-2016, 01:49 PM   #5498
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Don't. Acknowledge. The. Troll.

You'd have to think that if the Flames lose tomorrow against the preds, they'll go into sell mode early.
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Why would they trade Getzlaf?... Not a chance in hell.
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Ducks put Clendening on waivers.

Quite the year for him:

2015-Jan-29 Traded from Chicago Blackhawks to Vancouver Canucks for Gustav Forsling
2015-Jul-28 Traded from Vancouver Canucks with Nick Bonino and round 2 pick in the 2016 draft to Pittsburgh Penguins for Brandon Sutter and round 3 pick in the 2016 draft
2016-Jan-15 Traded from Pittsburgh Penguins with David Perron to Anaheim Ducks for Carl Hagelin
For the record, I've had my eye on Clendening since this:

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First (and only) NHL goal scored against us when he was with the Hawks. I liked the look of him then, though I haven't seen much of him since he began his magical mystery tour of all the NHL franchises.
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