01-07-2016, 03:22 PM
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#581
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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Originally Posted by JJ1532
Sorry, how is Drouin established again?
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Drouin is a certainty. He's young and is high potential. We still don't know where we will draft our 1st. What happens if we don't trade our first and still makes the playoffs.
Last edited by genetic_phreek; 01-07-2016 at 03:30 PM.
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01-07-2016, 03:24 PM
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#582
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Franchise Player
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He certainly can't crack TB's lineup
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01-07-2016, 03:27 PM
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#583
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genetic_phreek
Drouin is a certaintity.
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Hawt.
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01-07-2016, 03:28 PM
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#584
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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Originally Posted by Drak
Hawt.
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Haha typo.
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01-07-2016, 03:34 PM
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#585
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genetic_phreek
Drouin is a certainty. He's young and is high potential. We still don't know where we will draft our 1st. What happens if we don't trade our first and still makes the playoffs.
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Having the pick and making the playoffs is certainly better than trading the pick and watching someone else draft Auston Matthews with it.
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01-07-2016, 04:04 PM
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#586
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Franchise Player
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Remember a couple years ago when people were reluctant to include Wotherspoon in many trade proposals?
Anderson and Killington are the new Wotherspoon.
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01-07-2016, 04:11 PM
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#587
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by albertGQ
Remember a couple years ago when people were reluctant to include Wotherspoon in many trade proposals?
Anderson and Killington are the new Wotherspoon.
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Andersson and Kylington have shown a lot more than Wotherspoon has
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01-07-2016, 04:15 PM
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#588
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Andersson and Kylington have shown a lot more than Wotherspoon has
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Even if they haven't albert's point is useless. Yeah, people were hesitant to give up a prospect when he was 19-20, so what does that prove exactly. Because Wotherspoon struggled making the next step, those two or anyone else will?
Sillyness.
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01-07-2016, 04:17 PM
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#589
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Section 120
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Originally Posted by albertGQ
Remember a couple years ago when people were reluctant to include Wotherspoon in many trade proposals?
Anderson and Killington are the new Wotherspoon.
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Kylington certainly isn't comparable. 15 months ago he was a top 5 ranked draft prospect. Wotherspoon never had the ceiling of Kylington.
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01-07-2016, 04:18 PM
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#590
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Even if they haven't albert's point is useless. Yeah, people were hesitant to give up a prospect when he was 19-20, so what does that prove exactly. Because Wotherspoon struggled making the next step, those two or anyone else will?
Sillyness.
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It's to point out that although young defenseman may look promising, most/some won't make the next step. So it may be in our best interest to trade for a young dynamic forward that is 2 years further along with a higher pedigree.
I don't think it's silly at all to include Anderson or Killington in a trade proposal to get Drouin.
I think its actually the opposite. To consider them untouchable when you have a chance to get a player like Drouin is sillyness
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01-07-2016, 04:23 PM
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#591
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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I wouldn't trade it...
Edit: Funny enough... these were my next 3 results:
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Last edited by Split98; 01-07-2016 at 04:27 PM.
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01-07-2016, 04:26 PM
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#592
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by albertGQ
It's to point out that although young defenseman may look promising, most/some won't make the next step. So it may be in our best interest to trade for a young dynamic forward that is 2 years further along with a higher pedigree.
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I think everyone gets that. If I believed in Drouin, and not sure I do, I'd move two of Hickey/Andersson/Kylington for him. But I'd be hesitant, all three show tremendous upside and it would obliterate any defensive prospect depth we have.
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I don't think it's silly at all to include Anderson or Killington in a trade proposal to get Drouin.
I think its actually the opposite. To consider them untouchable when you have a chance to get a player like Drouin is sillyness
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Yeah, I know what side you're on, I'm just saying comparing them to Wotherspoon because he is off track doesn't mean we should be looser with anyone else that comes along.
Drouin might be a young dynamic forward but he is a young dynamic forward that has struggled to make the NHL when everyone else drafted around him has flourished. Getting to the NHL is a marathon not a race but couple that with a trade request and you're hesitant to give up what you think are high end prospects.
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01-07-2016, 04:35 PM
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#593
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Franchise Player
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Drouin has a higher liklehood of becoming a star (even a superstar) than either of our two defensive prospects in my opinion. So yes, they're on the table as far as I'm concerned in an attempt to get Drouin. Would I trade both? Not sure. I'd have to think about it. But definately one of them.
Everyone falls in love with their own prospects. Wotherspoon was an example as he was our shiny new toy on the backend. Now Anderson and Killington are our shiny new toys.
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01-07-2016, 04:37 PM
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#594
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Lifetime Suspension
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Wotherspoon was never much of a shiny new toy. Baertschi was the shiny toy in that draft and for some time. Wotherspoon flew under the radar quite a bit but was the only defensive prospect so people focused on him. He's only 22 though, it's not like he's done.
Kylington has star potential.
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01-07-2016, 04:46 PM
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#595
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Franchise Player
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Flames don't need Drouin. They need Hayes.
Big RW, Big steady D, #1 goalie
That's the shopping list. Why change it?
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01-07-2016, 04:53 PM
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#596
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Right behind you.
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Just thinking about possible lineups if the Flames could somehow land Drouin and what could be really interesting is Drouin playing on the wing with Bennett.
Can you imagine Monahan/Gaudreau on the top line followed by Bennett/Drouin - one can dream.
The opportunity here is that Drouin has poisoned the well in Tampa so Yzerman ( whether he admits it or not) is being forced into a trade situation and thus while he will expect good value for Drouin he will also be motivated to get a deal done. This may be a rare opportunity to secure an elite player ( which I truly believe Drouin to be) for less than an elite price.
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01-07-2016, 04:57 PM
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#597
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaudfather
Just thinking about possible lineups if the Flames could somehow land Drouin and what could be really interesting is Drouin playing on the wing with Bennett.
Can you imagine Monahan/Gaudreau on the top line followed by Bennett/Drouin - one can dream.
The opportunity here is that Drouin has poisoned the well in Tampa so Yzerman ( whether he admits it or not) is being forced into a trade situation and thus while he will expect good value for Drouin he will also be motivated to get a deal done. This may be a rare opportunity to secure an elite player ( which I truly believe Drouin to be) for less than an elite price.
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Drouin would be in the AHL and Bennett in the NHL so not sure how that would work.
Also Bennet = gym rat. Drouin not so much.
The price seems pretty elite to me if it involves a first. Any of the top ten picks this year are likely better than Drouin.
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01-07-2016, 04:59 PM
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#598
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by albertGQ
Drouin has a higher liklehood of becoming a star (even a superstar) than either of our two defensive prospects in my opinion. So yes, they're on the table as far as I'm concerned in an attempt to get Drouin. Would I trade both? Not sure. I'd have to think about it. But definately one of them.
Everyone falls in love with their own prospects. Wotherspoon was an example as he was our shiny new toy on the backend. Now Anderson and Killington are our shiny new toys.
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Kylington isn't a shiny new toy. He's a guy who was widely being hyped as one of two notable high-end defensemen along with Hanifin in his draft class before an injury-riddled and otherwise disappointing draft year in a tough mens league put him behind the curve. He's looked right back on track this year however. The hype about Kylington going into his draft year was not unlike the hype about Drouin going into his actual draft. The difference, is Drouin's rough spell came after his draft, and Kylington's before.
They are actually similar tiers of prospect. Both with high-end skill that need to learn to play both ends before they're NHLers. I don't think Kylington for Drouin is a talent upgrade. Nor is it a team need upgrade the way a guy like Puljujarvi or Laine would be.
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01-07-2016, 05:01 PM
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#599
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Split98
I wouldn't trade it...
Edit: Funny enough... these were my next 3 results:
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Whenever I do it Edmonton wins, so I guess I shouldn't go anywhere near the lottery machine.
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01-07-2016, 05:01 PM
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#600
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Drouin would be in the AHL and Bennett in the NHL so not sure how that would work.
Also Bennet = gym rat. Drouin not so much.
The price seems pretty elite to me if it involves a first. Any of the top ten picks this year are likely better than Drouin.
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lol you can't be serious
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