Where will Stamkos end up?

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Since when did Nylander become a better prospect than say Bennett or Draisaitl? I'm still lukewarm on him because I don't see him becoming anything more than what his father was. Marner looks good though but so did Druin and he's struggled in the NHL. Flames are fortunate that guys like Monahan and Gaudreau hit the NHL in stride and even Bennett has done pretty well given the Flames lack secondary scoring talent. Some of these guys just don't translate so prospects are just that and guarantee nothing.

When did I claim he had? I said top 10, I never said they were #1 and 2.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

It would have been hilarious to watch you type all that I bet. Hopefully our opinion of leaf prospects doesn't cause you to develop a nervous twitch.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

It would have been hilarious to watch you type all that I bet. Hopefully our opinion of leaf prospects doesn't cause you to develop a nervous twitch.

Better to think of that for you and not the actual content.

I use facts. Hearing people trying to believe Nylander and Marner aren't top NHL prospects is delusional.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Better to think of that for you and not the actual content.

I actually agree with you that Nylander is being underated by Flames fans. I just don't understand why you care so much. Do you think we should all be as high on him as you are?

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

I actually agree with you that Nylander is being underated by Flames fans. I just don't understand why you care so much. Do you think we should all be as high on him as you are?

No, but I do compliment teams I hate and recognize their strengths.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Justin Shultz did not accomplish the same thing.
That was US College.
If Nylander was a top pick of any other team would anyone have any doubts? He's produced at every level. A true blue chipper and a top 10 NHL prospect.

Justin Schultz, Oklahoma City Barons, AHL

34 Games, 18G, 30A, 48P

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Nylander isn't that small at all. And having a Flames fan arguing about Marner being too small is quite ironic given what a stud 5'9, 157 pound Johnny Goudreau has become. Marner is bigger than Goudreau. But who cares about size? It's about skill. A star on your own fav. team is destroying your argument.

Mitch Marner: 5'11, 159 LBS

Johnny Goudreau-5'9, 157 LBS. (And Johnny is 4 years older).

Nylander is small, and more importantly, he's soft.

But my point was that they are BOTH small. Yes, Gaudreau is small but has managed to make it anyway.

The problem that the Leafs have is that BOTH guys are small, and they play the same way.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

So you're downplaying the stat of 34 points in 27 games and trying to say he's being overhyped because he's a Leaf, right?

34 points currently leads the entire AHL in scoring by 6 points.

http://http://theahl.com/stats/statdisplay.php

The fact he is 19 makes it even more impressive.

Read my post and the context... I was replying to the comments from another poster.

If you try, I am sure you can follow along.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Justin Schultz, Oklahoma City Barons, AHL

34 Games, 18G, 30A, 48P

2009-10 U. of Wisconsin 43 6 16 22 12 2010-11 U. of Wisconsin 41 18 29 47 28 2011-12 U. of Wisconsin 37 16 28 44 12

121 College games vs only 34 in AHL.

Comparing Shultz to Nylander makes zero sense and is very weak.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Read my post and the context... I was replying to the comments from another poster.

If you try, I am sure you can follow along.

No you were clearly trying to say it's being made a big deal because he's a Leaf.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Current top 10 NHL prospects:

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospect-rankings/

Marner #7, Nylander #8.

It's pointless arguing with me because you're being owned.

lol

There are lots of rankings for prospects. I am glad you found one you like.

What matters is what they do in the NHL. And the Leaf's rebuild is flawed at this point because their best prospects are clones

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

2009-10 U. of Wisconsin 43 6 16 22 12 2010-11 U. of Wisconsin 41 18 29 47 28 2011-12 U. of Wisconsin 37 16 28 44 12

121 College games vs only 34 in AHL.

Comparing Shultz to Nylander makes zero sense and is very weak.

I'll type slowly....

the point was that success in the AHL guarantees nothing.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Nylander is small, and more importantly, he's soft.

But my point was that they are BOTH small. Yes, Gaudreau is small but has managed to make it anyway.

The problem that the Leafs have is that BOTH guys are small, and they play the same way.

5'11 and 190 lbs is not that small at all. You're exaggerating because of what team drafted him. If you're doubting him because of that size, then you're eliminating a lot of very good prospects.

Goudreau has managed to "Make It" because of elite talent. Marner and Nylnader certainly have that talent.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I'll type slowly....

the point was that success in the AHL guarantees nothing.

It isn't the same success Nylander is having 34 games and racking-up PP points. Good for him. Apples and oranges.

[Scornfire]

Stamkos

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

5'11 and 190 lbs is not that small at all. You're exaggerating because of what team drafted him. If you're doubting him because of that size, then you're eliminating a lot of very good prospects.

Goudreau has managed to "Make It" because of elite talent. Marner and Nylnader certainly have that talent.

1) 5'11" IS small, but again, and more importantly, he's soft.

2) couldn't care less who drafted him - I never liked him and said before the draft he was a bad pick

Watching him in Toronto, I still feel the same way

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

lol

There are lots of rankings for prospects. I am glad you found one you like.

What matters is what they do in the NHL. And the Leaf's rebuild is flawed at this point because their best prospects are clones

So now the argument changes. Show me rankings where both are not top 10 prospects. I gave you an example. You've given me your crappy statements with nothing to back-it-up.

Here's another. And they have Marner 6th and Nylander 12th. That was in August before his AHL stats.

http://thehockeywriters.com/thws-top...nhl-prospects/

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Scornfire

Stamkos

Yes, and I have had enough of BigTuna so I'll stop

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

1) 5'11" IS small, but again, and more importantly, he's soft.

2) couldn't care less who drafted him - I never liked him and said before the draft he was a bad pick

Watching him in Toronto, I still feel the same way

Then you know more than all the scouts. congrats. Why aren't you in the NHL?

Leading the AHL in scoring at 19 isn't changing your mind.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Scornfire

Stamkos

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