12-17-2015, 03:23 PM
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#4381
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto
I don't think that the solution to the 3 headed monster is to bring in a fourth goalie. Even if you just bury Hiller in the minors thats still too many goalies.
The Flames are actually in a good position right now as Hiller, Ramo and Ortio are all coming off the books this year. Just wait it out and let this mess solve itself. Don't bring in another teams garbage especially if they are signed past this year.
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I agree, Calgary should also not invest longer term into another goalie since we all know they are going to clamp down on goalie equipment which will probably expose even more goaltenders.
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12-17-2015, 03:30 PM
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#4382
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: West of Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robaur
Reads a full paragraph. Grabs 1 sentence, puts it out of context, and tries to come out acting smart. #NoHope
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How did he put it out of context?
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12-17-2015, 04:27 PM
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#4383
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yrebmi
Thanked for making me laugh not agreement.
I still have hopes for Ortio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Same here. I still think he's not only an NHLer but a starter. I want to see him get a regular backup spot.
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Oh yeah, I think eventually he figures it out. I'm just not sure it will be with Calgary. He is bad this year, very bad.
If they upgrade Ramo with a goalie that can hold fort for 2-3 years then Ramo deserves to be back as a backup, unless someone offers him a starter job. So that leaves Ortio in the AHL, where Gillies will have all the minutes next year (probably).
In 2-3 years Calgary should have a couple of pretty good goalie prospects ready to play, with an option to keep whatever starter they acquired previously.
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12-17-2015, 04:33 PM
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#4384
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Is this thread the beginning of more comic relief we can expect from you?
As I proved the rumours are not BS. Don't come on here pretending to be a know it all and then when you are called out on it start moving the goal posts. We can agree to disagree here but don't start calling people out for not knowing anything when you can't even get your own facts straight.
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At the risk of pointing out the obvious, the article you linked to is a rumour. No confirmation by BJ's management, just a reporter stating their is a rumour that he is out of shape.
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12-17-2015, 05:08 PM
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#4385
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Insider trading:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider-...e-moved~772226
during an intermission, Tortorella tried to call his forwards over to give them some instruction. Johansen didn't want to participate or at least showed very little interest in participating and Johansen got benched for the remainder of the 3rd period.
Nashville, Minnesota, Blues, Ducks now being scouted by Blue Jackets
number of teams reached out to Blue Jackets as soon as news of the benching, looking for a buy low scenario
couple of teams out there that might talk to Canadiens about possibility of trading for Kassian
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12-17-2015, 07:56 PM
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#4386
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I can see Johansen going to ANA for Fowler or something like that. Actually makes a ton of sense to me given the Ducks scoring woes.
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12-17-2015, 08:27 PM
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#4387
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Insider trading:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider-...e-moved~772226
during an intermission, Tortorella tried to call his forwards over to give them some instruction. Johansen didn't want to participate or at least showed very little interest in participating and Johansen got benched for the remainder of the 3rd period.
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So not only lazy but not a team player? When you are getting paid millions of dollars to perform and you can't be bothered to listen to your coach's instruction that's not a guy that is playing for his teammates. He has a lot of growing up to do and I hope for his sake he gets traded to a team heavy on leadership where he can get straightened out.
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12-17-2015, 10:21 PM
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#4388
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Oct 2010
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It'd be lovely if this RyJo development could work itself into the Hamonic situation and lead to some type of 3-way trade with the Flames. Johansen seems like the kind of player that would convince Snow to move Hamonic, but as we know he only wants to go to Western Canada.
Something like:
NYI: Johansen
CBJ: Ryan Strome, Calgary 1st, Hudler
CGY: Hamonic
Obviously it is tough giving up the 1st, so maybe some type of condition where we can choose if it is 2016 or 2017 at a later date. Not sure either NYI or CBJ is getting enough, but both are kind of in tough positions which lower the value of their players. Just something to dream of!
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12-17-2015, 10:40 PM
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#4389
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The toilet of Alberta : Edmonton
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Originally Posted by frodo_t_baggins
It'd be lovely if this RyJo development could work itself into the Hamonic situation and lead to some type of 3-way trade with the Flames. Johansen seems like the kind of player that would convince Snow to move Hamonic, but as we know he only wants to go to Western Canada.
Something like:
NYI: Johansen
CBJ: Ryan Strome, Calgary 1st, Hudler
CGY: Hamonic
Obviously it is tough giving up the 1st, so maybe some type of condition where we can choose if it is 2016 or 2017 at a later date. Not sure either NYI or CBJ is getting enough, but both are kind of in tough positions which lower the value of their players. Just something to dream
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1st + Hudler for Hamonic is way too steep.
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12-17-2015, 10:42 PM
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#4390
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CGY
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Would rather have Strome over Hamonic
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12-17-2015, 10:44 PM
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#4391
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
1st + Hudler for Hamonic is way too steep.
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Depends on how high the 1st is. A mid 1st plus a rental player is a bargain for a #2/#3 on an great long term contract.
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12-17-2015, 11:04 PM
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#4392
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The toilet of Alberta : Edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacks
Depends on how high the 1st is. A mid 1st plus a rental player is a bargain for a #2/#3 on an great long term contract.
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3.8 million for a player on pace for 15 points. No thanks. I know stats don't tell the full story, especially when it comes to Dmen but his advanced stats aren't good either. A first+ for Dougie made sense, but for Hamonic, no way.
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12-17-2015, 11:20 PM
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#4393
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Lifetime Suspension
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We're out of the basement for the first time this season and still only a few points out of falling right back down there... and people are talking about moving our 1st already?
Madness. That is still potentially a lottery pick.
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12-18-2015, 12:05 AM
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#4394
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
3.8 million for a player on pace for 15 points. No thanks. I know stats don't tell the full story, especially when it comes to Dmen but his advanced stats aren't good either. A first+ for Dougie made sense, but for Hamonic, no way.
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Stopping a goal is just as important as scoring a goal. Hamonic is a defensive defenseman well worth the $3.8mil.
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12-18-2015, 12:20 AM
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#4395
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
Stopping a goal is just as important as scoring a goal. Hamonic is a defensive defenseman well worth the $3.8mil.
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Fine. If all he's worth is the $3.8m, then he would be worth signing as a UFA at that price. He needs to be worth the money PLUS the assets used to acquire him… and he needs to be worth a hell of a lot if those assets include a possible lottery pick. I'm not convinced that he is.
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12-18-2015, 06:09 AM
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#4396
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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The Flames just lost Frolik potentially long term. Trading Hudlermright nowmisnplayong with fire. In that deal the Flames add Hamonic and now would have 2 Dmen in the press box (Smid/Engellend) making $6.4M combined
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12-18-2015, 06:36 AM
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#4397
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Hamonic isn't coming to Calgary any time soon. At the earliest it would be at the deadline, but more likely at the draft. Frolik's current injury should be irrelevant to the situation.
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12-18-2015, 06:43 AM
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#4398
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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If the Flames somehow managed to get Hamonic, I'm assuming one of Wideman or Russell would be dealt keeping Engelland in the bottom pairing (good thing IMO). Tracing Hudler right now wouldn't really mess things up at all as he hasn't really been amazing, at least not in my eyes.
I do however think that a deal for Hamonic might disrupt chemistry this year but make the team better long term. I think it'd be great if they could get him in the summer or if things completely fall apart, at the deadline.
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12-18-2015, 06:44 AM
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#4399
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
Hamonic isn't coming to Calgary any time soon. At the earliest it would be at the deadline, but more likely at the draft. Frolik's current injury should be irrelevant to the situation.
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If the main piece the Flames would trade is a top 6 forward his injury is not irrelevant. Flames need a top 6 winger they can't afford to trade one for a Dman. Either way I agree Hamonic is not coming here anytime soon and likely not at all
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12-18-2015, 06:47 AM
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#4400
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Hudler might not be putting up the big points but this team is already lacking top 6 players. Colborne and Raymond are getting regular shifts on the power play.
The team has been scoring at a good clip on this win streak but the shooting percentage is back over 10%. I think a goalie and top 6 forward are the priorities for trade (even with Ramo playing well and Taymond scoring a couple goals)
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