[News] UPD: Wild Claim Stoll. Khudobin clears waivers.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Sample00

IIRC wasnt it Stoll that snubbed the Flames after they drafted him and then re-entered the draft only to be drafted by the Oilers?

What makes it worse is the Flames had a trade worked out to send Stoll to the Leafs, but the fax didn't make it through in time before the deadline that made him go back into the draft.

[Dr. Doom]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

What makes it worse is the Flames had a trade worked out to send Stoll to the Leafs, but the fax didn't make it through in time before the deadline that made him go back into the draft.

hahaha i forgot about that, the fax machine jammed! lol

[Vinny01]

To those that say claiming him is no risk costs nothing fail to see that we are back in the 3 goalie system and to make it work we have to send Granlund back down to fit him on the roster (if I am not mistaken) Then the team waives Hiller and buries his $4.5M contract in the minors and does very little to solve the goaltending woes this team has.

[N-E-B]

Put me in the "might as well claim him" camp. You're never going to trade for a starting goalie, you just have to get lucky either through moves like this or developing your own guys.

I've had enough of Hiller. I don't care how cool his pads are anymore, I'll take ANYTHING to get him off this team.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by jammies

Crap teams try to improve thru the waiver wire. I don't believe this team is crap.

[Da_Chief]

Burke was asked the question if a player on waivers is someone of interest but it's during Flames roster freeze. He said that will be an exception so it can happen if they want this to.

[ScorchyScorch]

I'd say yes, but I don't want a 3 goalie situation again.

Make the move to get rid of Hiller then by all means pull the trigger on Khudobin.

[ScorchyScorch]

But seriously, can it get worse than Hiller's .862 SV% ?

Khudobin, even in his worst season with the Canes, at least kept it above .900, and usually well above.

[Angelino]

The Flames currently do not have any NHL caliber goalies. Putting a claim on one would be a wise decision.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Sample00

IIRC wasnt it Stoll that snubbed the Flames after they drafted him and then re-entered the draft only to be drafted by the Oilers?

He wanted a contract that was usually reserved for 1st rounders, the Flames didn't want to set a precedent by caving and said no. They tried to trade his rights at the last minute to Toronto, but they missed the deadline. It was joked about that the fax machine broke or something, but I am not sure if that was true.

[dino7c]

Hiller was done when he decided to come out of his net 16 seconds after the Flames took a 4-1 lead.

Claim him and send Hiller to the AHL he is done after this season anyway (likely done in the NHL)

[ScorchyScorch]

Originally Posted by Angelino

The Flames currently do not have any NHL caliber goalies. Putting a claim on one would be a wise decision.

For the past month and a half, Ramo has been playing like a slightly below average starter. Which just in itself has allowed the Flames record to improve drastically.

But the prospect of Hiller drawing in makes any Flames follower #### bricks. He can and should be replaced. That NYR game was well in hand and should not have made it to OT. Late penalties or not.

[Angelino]

Originally Posted by ScorchyScorch

For the past month and a half, Ramo has been playing like a slightly below average starter. Which just in itself has allowed the Flames record to improve drastically.

But the prospect of Hiller drawing in makes any Flames follower #### bricks. He can and should be replaced. That NYR game was well in hand and should not have made it to OT. Late penalties or not.

Agree Hiller should not be in the NHL. Ramo is a backup at best. His play is too inconsistent to be relied upon. It doesn't hurt to take a chance on a guy for free and see if the results are any better.

[Geeoff]

It sure would make things awkward in terms of contracts to pick up a goalie on waivers but we can't win every game 5-4..

[Point Blank]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

To those that say claiming him is no risk costs nothing fail to see that we are back in the 3 goalie system and to make it work we have to send Granlund back down to fit him on the roster (if I am not mistaken) Then the team waives Hiller and buries his $4.5M contract in the minors and does very little to solve the goaltending woes this team has.

So do that. Granlund won't have to go through waivers so what's the risk?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

To those that say claiming him is no risk costs nothing fail to see that we are back in the 3 goalie system and to make it work we have to send Granlund back down to fit him on the roster (if I am not mistaken) Then the team waives Hiller and buries his $4.5M contract in the minors and does very little to solve the goaltending woes this team has.

If you send Hiller down, why does Granlund have to go too?

You can't bury contracts in the minors any more, BTW.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

As of now, only 55% of people want to claim a goalie who has years of NHL experience and has posted a career Sv% of .918 and a GAA of 2.42. This year he's at .908 and 2.70

Hiller's career Sv% is .915 and GAA of 2.52, which isn't bad out of context, but look at him this year and his abysmal .862 Sv% and 3.76 GAA. Can you honestly tell me you wouldn't take Khudobin over Hiller at this point?

That's not even getting into Ramo's inconsistencies, or his career Sv% of .904 and GAA of 2.93...which are eerily similar to his numbers this season (.901, 3.00).

Khudobin is an instant upgrade on both of our goalies, but maybe not Ramo when he's hot. Fire Hiller into the sun, or if not that, fire him behind Joni Ortio in Stockton.

Watching the goaltenders single-handedly ruin this season has become too much for me to bear.

Solutions for this season:
1. Fix the goaltending
2. Fix the special teams
3. ???
4. Profit!

[Huntingwhale]

Put me in the camp that wouldn't mind a waiver claim. Goalies are different in that you often see goaltenders be put on waivers, claimed, who then go on to have decent seasons. You don't ever see any top 6 wingers grabbed from waivers. Never any top 4 D. It's always tweeners or players about to be bought out. But there often seem to be decent goalies that make it on waivers.

IMO goaltenders are the players that benefit the most from a change of scenery. Some examples have been shown in this thread. Guys like Kipper, Hasek, Bobrovsky, Bryzgalov, etc. Goalies who were an afterthought at one point, but went on to another team via trade or waivers and played pretty good for their teams. Now obviously those guys might be the exception to the rule. But how many skaters are claimed from waivers and go on to become top 6 forwards or top 4 D? It just happens way more often with goalies, so in this case I'm happy if Treliving keeps throwing #### on the wall to see if it sticks.

I'm not going to pretend to know much about Khubodon. But I'm sure Treliving and his staff will do their homework and decide if he's a good fit. Khubodon's stats are pretty good over his career. Maybe he is one of those guys who would benefit from a change of scenery.

[btimbit]

I'll actually be upset if the Flames don't put a claim in, and do something with Hiller

[gvitaly]

I chose yes, because we have been winning despite our goaltending and not because of it. It could be just change for the sake of change, but I don't see our goalies getting much better throughout the season.

Hartley's opinion should be taken into account though. He more than demonstrated that he is loyal to his guys. As a result, there is no point in bringing an extra goalie if Ramo is going to start just about every game.

The way I see it:
Cost:

• Roster spot
• $2M

Benefit assuming he will be playing more than Hiller:

• x Games Played (Ramo more rested?)
• y Points (how many points? I have no idea, but the worst case is that he is back on waivers after a few games)