At least they didn't come off like complete homers there. Automatically puts them ahead of a few pbp crews that come to mind...
You havent watched enough NESN then. This is only one of a handful of times Jack Edwrds has not presented himself has stereotypical N.E. trash. On any other day he could be a character off Family Guy.
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Agree. And with assurance that he's here to stay, I think his offense would come. Not sure yet if I see him as a centre or a winger.
I would think wing is the best bet long term. Considering we have, Arnold, Shore, Jankowski, all fighting for a C spot as well as the current roster guys.
Not to mention, Granlund actually looks pretty good on the boards. I think he brings two elements to the team that we are weak in. One of those being his hard shot, the other his drive to the net and net front presence. He isn't the biggest guy, but I've been noticing him always driving the net and planting himself in front of the net.
2 amazing comeback games in a row! My passion is coming back!
It's weird to say, but I think they needed a couple of these kinds of wins to rediscover themselves. Yes, they shouldn't have to come from behind in such ways to win, but last year there was a (albeit, unconventional) recipe for success. And this year they haven't had it. They felt like a completely different team with different chemistry. And these two games, they have been the first time this year they've truly looked and felt like the no-name team that crashed the playoff party last season. This is the blue print - no, NOT allowing 3-4 goals and giving up leads - but where the team is exuding that passion and confidence that they can AND will come back in any situation. These are the game that breed the swagger that they were rife and dripping with down the stretch last year. They needed some backbone and now they've may have *fingers crossed* found it.
Gaudreau was flying. Hudler made a difference. Rally and tie it after an absolute deflating goal. Giordano leading the way and putting pucks in the net, and Brodie moving around like he's skating on clouds. This was something straight outta last April.
Granlund keeps this up, and we mite have a trade piece in Backlund.
...no.
Granlund spent most of his icetime in an offensive role, most commonly with Bennett and Frolik. His most common competition was the likes of Hayes, Spooner, Vitrano, Kemppainen, McQuaid, Seidenberg.
Backlund spent most of his icetime matched up against Krejci and Bergeron lines. And he dominated the possession matchup with Bergeron (corsi events were 6-1 Backlund in just over 3 minutes), which is no easy task as Bergeron is right up there with Toews, Kopitar and Crosby as one of the best possession centremen in the world. Krejci "dominated" Backlund though (2-11 also in 3 minutes), but he's also one of the better #1 Centers in the NHL. And Backlund's linemates were Raymond and Frolik. Bennett >>>> Raymond
Backlund and Granlund are very different players despite being medium-size Euros with "Lund" in their names. They offer very different elements positively.
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I would think wing is the best bet long term. Considering we have, Arnold, Shore, Jankowski, all fighting for a C spot as well as the current roster guys.
Not to mention, Granlund actually looks pretty good on the boards. I think he brings two elements to the team that we are weak in. One of those being his hard shot, the other his drive to the net and net front presence. He isn't the biggest guy, but I've been noticing him always driving the net and planting himself in front of the net.
I agree. He's not a bottom 6 kind of guy, and that's why the the wing makes sense. It seems like he is being forced in as a centre.
On another note, it seems like a lot of people have given up on him. It's nice to have prospects that make an immediate impact in the NHL. God knows the flames have had a few recently. But let's remember that it takes time. I'm quite happy about where granlund is, and I'm reasonably happy about where Backlund is.
I don't think we have seen the best out of either yet.
Granlund spent most of his icetime in an offensive role, most commonly with Bennett and Frolik. His most common competition was the likes of Hayes, Spooner, Vitrano, Kemppainen, McQuaid, Seidenberg.
Backlund spent most of his icetime matched up against Krejci and Bergeron lines. And he dominated the possession matchup with Bergeron (corsi events were 6-1 Backlund in just over 3 minutes), which is no easy task as Bergeron is right up there with Toews, Kopitar and Crosby as one of the best possession centremen in the world. Krejci "dominated" Backlund though (2-11 also in 3 minutes), but he's also one of the better #1 Centers in the NHL. And Backlund's linemates were Raymond and Frolik. Bennett >>>> Raymond
Advance stats are a crap. I hope this is just a fad.
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If Granlund is going to make it as a top 6-9 forward in this league, it's as a winger.
There are more sensible options down the middle for the Flames moving forward. Get him accustomed to playing down the right side, where we need some strength, ffs.
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If Granlund is going to make it as a top 6-9 forward in this league, it's as a winger.
There are more sensible options down the middle for the Flames moving forward. Get him accustomed to playing down the right side, where we need some strength, ffs.
I agree with most of what you are saying.
Keep in mind what the Flames looked like 7-8 years ago. We would be shouting for him to have a shot as Iginlas centre.
He's defensively perfect for the position. He's lacking face off ability and size.
It seems kinda unfair for other teams having Johnny whenever we go to OT. I love this 3 on 3 format.
And Sean Monaclutch who I think has ended like a dozen games so far in his minute career.
They're basically the 1-2 punch of death in any situation where the next goal decides it.
Perhaps soon teams will start pulling their tender when dead knotted with us late in regulation, because they know within them that there is no hope in going head to head with us after 60 minutes. (I kid though)..
..Then again, 7-1 speaks for itself..
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Keep in mind what the Flames looked like 7-8 years ago. We would be shouting for him to have a shot as Iginlas centre.
He's defensively perfect for the position. He's lacking face off ability and size.
I suppose. Like Brad and other GMs have said, good teams are built on the blue line and from the middle, out. I suppose it can't hurt to have another option to play there if he can shore up his faceoffs to a respectable level.
Wow Gaudreau is absolutely elite. What a player. Can't even get too mad.
Saw this quote from a Bruins fan that really sums up Johnny.
You know it's funny. In the last six months we've heard the term "Generational Player" ad nauseam for all the wrong reasons (as it pertains to being a Flames fan).
I'm honestly starting to think it's not that big of a stretch to suggest we might have one of our own. Watching game in and game out, Johnny Gaudreau has to be one of the most impressive players in the league, bar none. He makes plays out of nothing, makes everyone around him better and is an absolute game changer. The bigger the moment and the higher the stakes... the more he wants to be *the* difference maker.
The label itself is semantics... he is an extremely special player.
The thing with Johnny is one must look and realize the way his career is trending after 1 and a 1/4 seasons is straight up scary.
I mean, he's top 10 scoring-good right now and he's only just begun.
If "generational" McDavid produced showed Gaudreau's stat lines and offensive prowess after 110 ish games, they'd probably say he's just about on track.
And yes 64 points as a rookie isn't out of this world, but you have to take into account what he does for the team, how he elevates others, the level of talent he plays with, and the rate at which he produced particularly in the latter two thirds of the season after requiring a short period of time to become accustomed to the NHL level.
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The thing with Johnny is one must look and realize the way his career is trending after 1 and a 1/4 seasons is straight up scary.
I mean, he's top 10 scoring-good right now and he's only just begun.
If "generational" McDavid produced showed Gaudreau's stat lines and offensive prowess after 110 ish games, they'd probably say he's just about on track.
And yes 64 points as a rookie isn't out of this world, but you have to take into account what he does for the team, how he elevates others, the level of talent he plays with, and the rate at which he produced particularly in the latter two thirds of the season after requiring a short period of time to become accustomed to the NHL level.
To add: one player has been raised as a winner, and one: yet to be determined...
