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Old 11-30-2015, 04:47 PM   #141
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Basically, using race as an identifier for anybody besides white people is offensive.
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Old 11-30-2015, 04:48 PM   #142
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Basically, using race as an identifier for anybody besides white people is offensive.
Larry's not white. Larry is clear.
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Basically, using race as an identifier for anybody besides white people is offensive.
That's correct. Now, feel shame and prepare for the collective punishment that will right all the wrongs.
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Old 11-30-2015, 04:49 PM   #144
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Thanks for the post from Up North, it cleared up nothing .


I honestly didn't know that Newfies don't like that term. I know a bunch of them, and two go the nicknames: Newf & Newfie (self given).
Living here in St John's I can tell you that there are a large number of people that liken the term newfie to the N word. Basically it's fine if a Newfoundlander calls another Newfoundlander a newfie but if you're not from here watch out. Some people see it as harking back to the days of "mainlanders" using it to describe newfies as poor and uneducated. I have seen locals go off on tourists for using it. Other locals don't see any issues with it.
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This argument started a week ago when the Ottawa Citizen decided to give the Esks bulletin board material (hey...let's show these western yokels how much more progressive we are here in the Nation's capital) to help motivate them against the home team. I'm sure everyone on the RedBlacks really appreciated the timing of said article. Yeah, it's a stretch.
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:45 PM   #147
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This is related to all the talk about native imagery and symbols but I'm pretty surprised that when the Crowchild hockey association changed over to the Northwest Warriors they kept the Indian head logo.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:18 PM   #148
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This is related to all the talk about native imagery and symbols but I'm pretty surprised that when the Crowchild hockey association changed over to the Northwest Warriors they kept the Indian head logo.
Really? They changed? How does that differ from the Trail? Will that needto be revisited at some point? Or any other offensive road names? What's the other team one, up north that... Wow, I almost typed "the one above crowfoot shopping centre". Obviously that would be the crowfoot team. Are they still crowfoot? Crowchild bad, crowfoot good, Metis Trail fine? Seriously, how does one keep track of this all? A sports team is bad, but a road or trail is fine?
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:07 AM   #149
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Really? They changed? How does that differ from the Trail? Will that needto be revisited at some point? Or any other offensive road names? What's the other team one, up north that... Wow, I almost typed "the one above crowfoot shopping centre". Obviously that would be the crowfoot team. Are they still crowfoot? Crowchild bad, crowfoot good, Metis Trail fine? Seriously, how does one keep track of this all? A sports team is bad, but a road or trail is fine?
I don't believe they changed Crowchild to Northwest Warriors because Crowchild was offensive but because they reorganized the communities and expanded the organization. I'm just surprised that with all the cultural sensitivity they have kept the Indian head logo.
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I don't believe they changed Crowchild to Northwest Warriors because Crowchild was offensive but because they reorganized the communities and expanded the organization. I'm just surprised that with all the cultural sensitivity they have kept the Indian head logo.
Oh, well then ignore my post.
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As a side note, apparently "Canadian" is a derogatory term for a stupid person in Australia.

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thisisthat/m...ated-1.3293251
I don't mean to be "that guy" but you know that show is satire, right?
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Old 12-01-2015, 09:05 AM   #152
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That show might be satire, but I know a few Germans that were aghast that we would have a team named the "Canucks". Apparently, that was the "derogatory" term they used for Canadians during the war. Even in the mid 90's, the German teens I talked to about it were honestly embarrassed to use that word.
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Sometimes the best way to remove the derogatory power of a label is to embrace it. Look at geeks, nerds etc.
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Old 12-01-2015, 09:17 AM   #154
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Fata's sake, many Asians HATE IT when the term "Oriental" is used to describe us. But ####, so many of you white guys still use it - "which Oriental are you?"
Yeah, I just learned about this one the other day. Outrage is like trends, it's really difficult to keep up with what (mainly young) people are outraged at today or any given moment. My brothers wife in Mongolian and had a son with a Chinese man 20 years ago that lives with my brother and wife and they call Asian people Oriental and refer to "oriental food" etc.....so I don't know what to think anymore. I had never heard of the term Oriental as being offensive before that.
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"Offensive" clearly has meaning. It's a matter of whether it should have teeth. That being said, isn't the proper reaction to do exactly what is being done here and in re: the Redskins?

"We don't like that name, here's why, we want you to change it!"
"We like the name, we're not going to change it and here's why!"

People then weigh in on either side.

I mean, team names are a weird case because there is so little actually at stake on either side. But the result of that low-stakes reality seems to be that people are arguing over what is essentially a non-issue, putting a bunch of energy into it, but at least doing it the way one would want in a free and democratic society. Considering how often this sort of stuff just descends into heckler's vetoes, it's oddly encouraging. Now we just need to extend this to things that matter, I guess? Or am I off base here.
Very few people really care about these names. Its just a way for people to earn internet cred by complaining on the 'right' side of the issue.
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That show might be satire, but I know a few Germans that were aghast that we would have a team named the "Canucks". Apparently, that was the "derogatory" term they used for Canadians during the war. Even in the mid 90's, the German teens I talked to about it were honestly embarrassed to use that word.
Well...it is still a derogatory name for hockey players
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very few people (really care about) are affected by/are informed about these names. Its just a way for people to earn internet cred by complaining on the 'right' side of the issue.
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Fata's sake, many Asians HATE IT when the term "Oriental" is used to describe us. But ####, so many of you white guys still use it - "which Oriental are you?"
Not gonna lie, the term Oriental does offend me when someone uses it. Always hated the term. Growing up in small town Redcliff, Oriental and Chinaman was used by other kids whenever they wanted to go all racist against me and my cousins.
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Basically, using race as an identifier for anybody besides white people is offensive.
If whites were a historically persecuted minority and the majority race had a sports team called the "whiteys" where they did a stupid dance and cheer that mocked white people, that wouldn't be offensive? A logo with a white guy with exaggerated features and a stupid smile?

Whites are the majority and not team can get away with making fun of religious symbols that pertain to white people. Imagine the backlash if there was a professional sports team using crucifixes or images of Jesus in a disrespectful tone. Yet somehow its acceptable to use sacred images like eagle feathers in whatever context we choose?

It's not an issue of "identifying" that other races exist, it's an issue of basic respect.
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