Good thing being a minority doesn't preclude you from being a racist! Go out into the world and fill your boots!
Nor does it grant you authoritative opinion on what is/is not racism though. Sucks, I know. You'd think that's the LEAST you'd get in return.
This post reminds me so much of PC Principal when him and his fraternity don't understand why minorities don't want the fraternity's help. Brilliant episode.
Those words, in fact, were used with racist intent.
Things change though, so now "gyp" doesn't mean you're a Gypsy.
But good grief, you don't even know the etymology of that word?
In a similar vein, I gave a guy #### for saying he got "jewed" on a car he bought while we were at the bar a few weeks back, and everyone started unironically PC BRO? PC BRO?ing me.
I'm kind of afraid that this year's brilliant and on-point season of South Park is sailing over the heads of a lot of people, and is going to be like the Chris Rock "N*****s vs black people" routine very quickly here.
Those words, in fact, were used with racist intent.
Things change though, so now "gyp" doesn't mean you're a Gypsy.
But good grief, you don't even know the etymology of that word?
They were not all, in fact, used with racist intent.
If you name 6 or 7 words and are wrong on 3, I'm going to question if you know what's up, that's all. I'm curious about your point on topic though in that regard.
Is your opinion that 'Eskimos' should be changed because definitions change (now seen as more racist)? Or that it should stay the same (because definitions change, and it may be forgotten as racist)?
Those words, in fact, were used with racist intent.
Things change though, so now "gyp" doesn't mean you're a Gypsy.
But good grief, you don't even know the etymology of that word?
I think gyp is still a really rude thing to say. We don't have a lot of Roma in Canada, but in parts of Europe, it would be really frowned upon.
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In a similar vein, I gave a guy #### for saying he got "jewed" on a car he bought while we were at the bar a few weeks back, and everyone started unironically PC BRO? PC BRO?ing me.
I'm kind of afraid that this year's brilliant and on-point season of South Park is sailing over the heads of a lot of people, and is going to be like the Chris Rock "N*****s vs black people" routine very quickly here.
It's kind of like how Polish jokes are so popular and common in Canada, yet they were something that the Germans started to promote the idea that Poles deserved to be subjugated. A lot of people don't understand the origins of these stereotypes, who started them, and why they are bad.
As a side note, apparently "Canadian" is a derogatory term for a stupid person in Australia.
Which is interesting, because "Australian" is a derogatory term for a person living in Banff.
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FSU is officially approved by the Florida Seminole nation to use the name. Over the years, they have changed some of their pregame and in-game traditions to better represent the Seminoles, as opposed to generic "Indian" stereotypes.
On the other hand, you have North Dakota, which used to be called the Fighting Sioux, but the Sioux nation did not agree to approve that usage, so they have been forced by the NCAA to change their name. It was announced a couple of weeks ago that they will now be known as the Fighting Hawks.
Yeah it's weird. The Illinois Fighting Illini are still the Fighting Illini. The Fighting Irish have a little person in a leprechaun suit as a mascot and that's ok. The Ragin' Cajuns have a guy dressed up as a pickle. The Crimson Tide is now the least offensive bunch of Cajuns. I literally don't understand anything anymore.
My alma mater in order of offense...The Lumberjacks, The Gouchos, The Sun Devils. Who'd a thought?
They were not all, in fact, used with racist intent.
If you name 6 or 7 words and are wrong on 3, I'm going to question if you know what's up, that's all. I'm curious about your point on topic though in that regard.
Is your opinion that 'Eskimos' should be changed because definitions change (now seen as more racist)? Or that it should stay the same (because definitions change, and it may be forgotten as racist)?
Maybe stop using Wikipedia as your first and only source of word etymology.
Hell if there's a certain portion of people that don't like Eskimo and they're offended by it... well, it's really up to the Eskimos organization to change it, isn't it. My outrage isn't really relevant. Neither is yours.
Fata's sake, many Asians HATE IT when the term "Oriental" is used to describe us. But ####, so many of you white guys still use it - "which Oriental are you?"
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Maybe stop using Wikipedia as your first and only source of word etymology.
Hell if there's a certain portion of people that don't like Eskimo and they're offended by it... well, it's really up to the Eskimos organization to change it, isn't it. My outrage isn't really relevant. Neither is yours.
Fata's sake, many Asians HATE IT when the term "Oriental" is used to describe us. But ####, so many of you white guys still use it - "which Oriental are you?"
I was actually going to compare this to the term "oriental", which is generally considered offensive and is clearly an overbroad basket term used to describe a bunch of different peoples... yet wasn't initially meant to be derogatory.
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Maybe stop using Wikipedia as your first and only source of word etymology.
Hell if there's a certain portion of people that don't like Eskimo and they're offended by it... well, it's really up to the Eskimos organization to change it, isn't it. My outrage isn't really relevant. Neither is yours.
Fata's sake, many Asians HATE IT when the term "Oriental" is used to describe us. But ####, so many of you white guys still use it - "which Oriental are you?"
Thanks for your research suggestion, I don't, and didn't. If you feel strongly about your examples, you're going to have to offer up more than a blog. The OED (along with actual etymology sites like etymonline) aren't in your favour on a few of your examples. If you don't care, that's ok too.
Neither of our outrage is relevant, maybe, but what outrage IS relevant? Anyone who is Inuit?
I echo a few of the people who question how we quantify outrage and the need for change. I don't think it's up to the Eskimos to change the name, but I DO think it's up to them to address this issue with the group involved and at very least have a real conversation about it.
In most of these cases, I'd be happy to see the owners sit down and discuss things with the people they're offending so they understand the issue and have a human face to it. If they want to continue to use an offensive name, I think that's their right. How it impacts their support financially is on them.
What will a conversation do to help a situation that has absolutely nothing to do with the institution and history of colonial oppression?
It is precisely these small one-off outrages that make people less and less capable of distinguishing true injustice from minor inconveniences that offend some aspect of our temperament.
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In a similar vein, I gave a guy #### for saying he got "jewed" on a car he bought while we were at the bar a few weeks back, and everyone started unironically PC BRO? PC BRO?ing me.
I'm kind of afraid that this year's brilliant and on-point season of South Park is sailing over the heads of a lot of people, and is going to be like the Chris Rock "N*****s vs black people" routine very quickly here.
Since South Park has spent the better part of 18 years being offensive in a equal opportunity sort of way, getting people to view social issues from all sides, and proclaimed that this was the year they try to offend to the point of being censored, perhaps you could fill us in on what they are trying to drive home in this season?
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Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
What will a conversation do to help a situation that has absolutely nothing to do with the institution and history of colonial oppression?
It is precisely these small one-off outrages that make people less and less capable of distinguishing true injustice from minor inconveniences that offend some aspect of our temperament.
Let's see what we can drag out of the Aaron Sorkin vault for this scenario... ah!
There really is something for every issue.
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Edmonton Eskimos must change offensive name, Inuit leader says
