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flames_1987 · 09-13-2006, 01:10 PM

Listening to the radio on the drive home, they said that the College was one of the most diverse in Canada. Many different cultures and ethnic groups. The people described as the shooters we're in all black, with mowhawks and numerous piercings. I'm not trying to make by any means a punk sterotype, but this has White Supremicist written all over it sadly.

Canada 02 · 09-13-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Dawson College is basically a high school, isn't it?

CTV is saying 10000 students age 16 to 19

Philly06Cup · 09-13-2006, 01:11 PM

Why is there so much spite against these gunmen? This isn't a black and white issue; they aren't "evil" aliens -- They are people, too. A product of our society, even. This is an issue that should be addressed as a society, where everyone has a part to try to prevent future acts like this from happening.

Reggie Dunlop · 09-13-2006, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KevanGuy

Yeah, they are saying it is a Grade 12/13 kinda place.

Thanks. Always wondered what Quebec's CEGEP system was all about.

In terms of relative age, it makes the reports of innocent dead all that more senseless.

Frank the Tank · 09-13-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

Why is there so much spite against these gunmen? This isn't a black and white issue; they aren't "evil" aliens -- They are people, too. A product of our society, even. This is an issue that should be addressed as a society, where everyone has a part to try to prevent future acts like this from happening.

Its an issue that should be addressed with a scope and a high calibre rifle, with a cop pulling the trigger.

Winsor_Pilates · 09-13-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by flames_1987

It's basically what Chinook College is in Calgary place for students to upgrade

But with 10,000 students. That's pretty big.

Reggie Dunlop · 09-13-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

Why is there so much spite against these gunmen? This isn't a black and white issue; they aren't "evil" aliens -- They are people, too. A product of our society, even. This is an issue that should be addressed as a society, where everyone has a part to try to prevent future acts like this from happening.

Right now people are dead or wounded. Let's deal with that first.

Jiggy_12 · 09-13-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

Why is there so much spite against these gunmen? This isn't a black and white issue; they aren't "evil" aliens -- They are people, too. A product of our society, even. This is an issue that should be addressed as a society, where everyone has a part to try to prevent future acts like this from happening.

It's 2 coward punks...and they shot alot of people. That's all that matters right now.

flames_1987 · 09-13-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

Why is there so much spite against these gunmen? This isn't a black and white issue; they aren't "evil" aliens -- They are people, too. A product of our society, even. This is an issue that should be addressed as a society, where everyone has a part to try to prevent future acts like this from happening.

4 people go in and open up shooting on a bunch of young kids, what the heck did you expect? I agree that there are many problems with our society that only help feul the fire for people like this. However for someone to just open fire randomly on young men and women, there is much more wrong with them. Everyone of those shooters does not deserve to take another breath.

however this is an argument for another time

flames_1987 · 09-13-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

But with 10,000 students. That's pretty big.

Very true, I just was talking about the education being taught there. Sort of an upgrading like place

Bobblehead · 09-13-2006, 01:19 PM

Reports are all over the map on this. On the radio I must have heard 3 or 4 different reports of every detail.

On report said gang violence, another said a chase, another story was random, indiscriminate shooting.

HelloHockeyFans · 09-13-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by flames_1987

It's basically what Chinook College is in Calgary place for students to upgrade

I think it's mandatory actually for Quebec students. It's preparation for university, as opposed to an adult upgrade institution.

HelloHockeyFans · 09-13-2006, 01:21 PM

Now they're saying 12 in the hospital. 0 dead so far.

Clarkey · 09-13-2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

Why is there so much spite against these gunmen? This isn't a black and white issue; they aren't "evil" aliens -- They are people, too. A product of our society, even. This is an issue that should be addressed as a society, where everyone has a part to try to prevent future acts like this from happening.

They are degenerates and should be shot dead or tortured.

BlackEleven · 09-13-2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Thanks. Always wondered what Quebec's CEGEP system was all about.

In terms of relative age, it makes the reports of innocent dead all that more senseless.

Quebec's school system works like ours up until grade 11. After grade 11 you get your highschool diploma and you can go to cegep, if you wish, for 2 years. Then after that you can do 3 years at University to get a bachelor's degree. Dawson's is a well-known Montreal cegep for anglophones.

So getting a bachelor's degree in Quebec takes the same amount of time as everywhere else in Canada, but you can graduate from high school a year earlier.

BlackEleven · 09-13-2006, 01:29 PM

The news in Montreal is saying 12 injured, 2 dead. The 2 dead appear to be the gunmen -- one shot by police and one by his own hand. There's apparently 1 or 2 gunmen still at large.

Philly06Cup · 09-13-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by flames_1987

4 people go in and open up shooting on a bunch of young kids, what the heck did you expect? I agree that there are many problems with our society that only help feul the fire for people like this. However for someone to just open fire randomly on young men and women, there is much more wrong with them. Everyone of those shooters does not deserve to take another breath.

however this is an argument for another time

From all the reports I've read / seen, there were two gunmen. One killed himself after unloading on the others. You make them sound like they were just having fun and going on about shooting randomly. I see this as much akin to Coloumbine. Two "punks" -- described as wearing trenchcoats, large boots, piercings -- who were probably social outcasts, and now act out of desperation and rage. What you say is right -- there is a lot wrong with them. But their problem IS our problem, and we should treat it like that, and think about what we could do. The gunmen are victims, too.

Winsor_Pilates · 09-13-2006, 01:33 PM

Do you guys have any links for these new reprorts that are saying 2 dead, 0 dead etc.?

JiriHrdina · 09-13-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

From all the reports I've read / seen, there were two gunmen. One killed himself after unloading on the others. You make them sound like they were just having fun and going on about shooting randomly. I see this as much akin to Coloumbine. Two "punks" -- described as wearing trenchcoats, large boots, piercings -- who were probably social outcasts, and now act out of desperation and rage. What you say is right -- there is a lot wrong with them. But their problem IS our problem, and we should treat it like that, and think about what we could do. The gunmen are victims, too.

I don't see anyone saying that. Moreover, there will be a time to discuss why this stuff happens, but not now. Right now they are NOT victims. They are murderers.

flames_1987 · 09-13-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

From all the reports I've read / seen, there were two gunmen. One killed himself after unloading on the others. You make them sound like they were just having fun and going on about shooting randomly. I see this as much akin to Coloumbine. Two "punks" -- described as wearing trenchcoats, large boots, piercings -- who were probably social outcasts, and now act out of desperation and rage. What you say is right -- there is a lot wrong with them. But their problem IS our problem, and we should treat it like that, and think about what we could do. The gunmen are victims, too.

An argument to have later