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11-24-2015, 07:42 AM
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#5981
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
I don't think the cliffhanger and resolution was well written or resolved, but ultimatley I enjoy having Glenn in the show. Past characters that have been killed off have been less critical to my enjoyment of the show - so I guess I'm OK with this.
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Yeah I like the character and glad he's alive but I really wish they handled the entire thing better. There has to be a better way to make a cliffhanger like this. Something more plausible.
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11-24-2015, 08:02 AM
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#5982
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Yeah I like the character and glad he's alive but I really wish they handled the entire thing better. There has to be a better way to make a cliffhanger like this. Something more plausible.
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The Walking Dead and plausibility parted ways long ago
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11-24-2015, 11:07 AM
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#5983
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
speaking of which is that actress pregnant? they seemed to go out of the way to hide a possible baby bump when they shot scenes she was involved with
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Her half-brother in real life is Danny Masterson(Hyde from That 70's show). In case you were wondering.
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11-25-2015, 04:28 PM
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#5984
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Yeah, the last few episodes have really started to drag again. Some of the dialogue has been kinda cringe worthy too. Hopefully the mid season finale gives us something to be excited about again.
The zombies really are a boring enemy. It's kinda cool seeing them mill about the wall, a sort of metaphor of the deadliness of the new world, but the action scenes with them are pretty meh, especially after six seasons.
I wanna see more Termites and Wolves! That was true tension and creepiness.
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11-25-2015, 04:34 PM
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#5985
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Yeah I like the character and glad he's alive but I really wish they handled the entire thing better. There has to be a better way to make a cliffhanger like this. Something more plausible.
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Agreed. And not just 'a better way' but at least don't make it a cheesy cliffhanger for the sake of having a cliffhanger. That's really all it was.
Course, most of the characters they've killed off kinda died in pointless or meh ways. Like when they offed Beth.
I think the only two character deaths that were interesting to me were Shane, because it was building for a while, and he was really well fleshed out character even if most felt he was a 'bad guy'. And Hershel. Hershel dying sucked, even though you could feel it coming for a while. Old guy with one leg, probably not long for this world. Maybe because he was such a good character too, and one of the few happy spots in the show.
Oh, Dale dying sucked too, though I thought the way he died was kinda stupid.
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11-25-2015, 05:03 PM
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Glenn sure is lucky that all those zombies decided not to eat him. Gave him just enough time to get under that dumpster, what nice chaps.
Some of these hands were just out of reach on the ground yet it was a sea of walkers around the dumpster just before they fell. So funny. Are the zombies just lazy? I could get up and get him but that's work so I'll just reach with this outstretched arm for a bit and then totally scramble to get him as he's going under the dumpster.
Season started out promising but the last two episodes were just trash. I know zombies aren't realistic but does that mean we need to ignore the laws of physics to create a lame cliffhanger?
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11-25-2015, 05:07 PM
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#5987
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
Glenn sure is lucky that all those zombies decided not to eat him. Gave him just enough time to get under that dumpster, what nice chaps.
Some of these hands were just out of reach on the ground yet it was a sea of walkers around the dumpster just before they fell. So funny. Are the zombies just lazy? I could get up and get him but that's work so I'll just reach with this outstretched arm for a bit and then totally scramble to get him as he's going under the dumpster.
Season started out promising but the last two episodes were just trash. I know zombies aren't realistic but does that mean we need to ignore the laws of physics to create a lame cliffhanger?
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You can't see from the overhead angle, but about 2/3 of the dumpster was surrounded by 3 foot high concrete wall. The walkers were limited in their ability to get at him. He kills a few and uses their bodies to form a wall to prevent others from seeing him. The zombies are not capable of rationale thought.
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11-25-2015, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by blankall
You can't see from the overhead angle, but about 2/3 of the dumpster was surrounded by 3 foot high concrete wall. The walkers were limited in their ability to get at him. He kills a few and uses their bodies to form a wall to prevent others from seeing him. The zombies are not capable of rationale thought.
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I meant when he was already on the ground right after he fell. He was right there for the taking, I'm not sure what stopped them. An invisible wall? Anti-walker cologne? Who knows but the whole thing was stupid imo.
For a zombie show they sure are getting afraid to kill people off (people that matter). I can kind of see why though as most of the new characters they've introduced over the last two years are bland and boring. Much easier to kill them off I guess.
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11-25-2015, 05:24 PM
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
I meant when he was already on the ground right after he fell. He was right there for the taking, I'm not sure what stopped them. An invisible wall? Anti-walker cologne? Who knows but the whole thing was stupid imo.
For a zombie show they sure are getting afraid to kill people off (people that matter). I can kind of see why though as most of the new characters they've introduced over the last two years are bland and boring. Much easier to kill them off I guess.
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The zombies were distracted by the corpse right on top of him.
They also kill people off all the time. We're not even half way through this season. Last season saw Noah, Tyreese, Beth, and Bob die.
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11-25-2015, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by blankall
The zombies were distracted by the corpse right on top of him.
They also kill people off all the time. We're not even half way through this season. Last season saw Noah, Tyreese, Beth, and Bob die.
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Those were bit characters. The last important death was Hershel.
There was dozens of zombies. Some couldn't even get at Nicholas, why didn't they just move slightly and attack Glenn? Why would they ignore him? Didn't they see/smell him? Pretty convenient and stupid considering they have had to lather themselves in guts to disguise themselves in the past. It's already been established that they ravenously attack anything living that they can get there hands on and they won't stop until they do. To me it looked like they weren't even trying to get Glenn. He was RIGHT THERE.
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11-25-2015, 06:06 PM
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
Those were bit characters. The last important death was Hershel.
There was dozens of zombies. Some couldn't even get at Nicholas, why didn't they just move slightly and attack Glenn? Why would they ignore him? Didn't they see/smell him? Pretty convenient and stupid considering they have had to lather themselves in guts to disguise themselves in the past. It's already been established that they ravenously attack anything living that they can get there hands on and they won't stop until they do. To me it looked like they weren't even trying to get Glenn. He was RIGHT THERE.
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The zombies work themselves up into a frenzy as soon as they see fresh meat. It makes sense they would be distracted by the corpse. Once again, they don't have the mental capacity to think things like:
i) maybe I'll go after the other guy while my friends eat the first guy; or
ii) once I'm done with this guy, I'll find that guy.
They just eat what's in front of them at that moment and don't have memories.
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11-25-2015, 06:30 PM
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#5992
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
Those were bit characters. The last important death was Hershel.
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Beth was in the show just as long as Hershel and had an entire story arc dedicated to her that season. I thought her death was super impactful... Tyreese got plenty of screen time, as well.
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11-25-2015, 09:00 PM
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#5993
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Tyreese was a big death both as a central character and fan favourite. Plus he was Cutty!
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11-26-2015, 11:21 AM
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Tyreese wasn't a central character, he probably averaged about 5 minutes of screen time per episode since his introduction in season 3. I doubt he was a fan-favorite either. We should do a poll, I doubt he'd even make the top 10.
The writers butchered Tyreese IMO. Just a soft marshmallow that served no purpose. If he died in season 3, would there be any impact to the rest of the show or the other characters? IMO not really, he was always just sort of "there", trying to be the angel on the group's shoulder. I guess we wouldn't have witnessed his irrational freak out over Karen's murder, for all the benefit that gave the show. Didn't last though, he was back to being a marshmallow within a few episodes. He even forgave Carroll for butchering his girlfriend lol. Better hope you don't get sick Tyreese, otherwise you're probably getting an ice pick in your temple.
If not for needing someone to take care of Judith he was basically useless. And he almost screwed that up because he didn't want to kill people that were trying to kill him. The way they killed him off was so bad too. If that's all it took, I am astounded he was able to make it as far as he did in a ZA. He died like a total chump.
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11-26-2015, 12:01 PM
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#5995
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^^^Why watch the show if it displeases you so much?
Last edited by Roof-Daddy; 11-26-2015 at 12:04 PM.
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11-26-2015, 12:29 PM
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One of the Nine
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I was trying to think the other day if Tyreese was still alive or not, that should show you how central of a character he is.. I follow the show closely have read most of the comics and I couldn't even remember if he died or not.
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11-26-2015, 01:00 PM
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#5997
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Originally Posted by blankall
The zombies work themselves up into a frenzy as soon as they see fresh meat. It makes sense they would be distracted by the corpse. Once again, they don't have the mental capacity to think things like:
i) maybe I'll go after the other guy while my friends eat the first guy; or
ii) once I'm done with this guy, I'll find that guy.
They just eat what's in front of them at that moment and don't have memories.
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I'll say this for you, you are invested in that particular scene.
I will still say I think the premise of him hiding under a dumpster is weak. Dumpster space 8", he goes in head first, yet can move around in the 8" space enough to stab walkers.
weak, weak weak,
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11-26-2015, 01:14 PM
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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I'll say this for you, you are invested in that particular scene.
I will still say I think the premise of him hiding under a dumpster is weak. Dumpster space 8", he goes in head first, yet can move around in the 8" space enough to stab walkers.
weak, weak weak,
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I'm not more invested than the people who are obsessed with it being impossible. Of all the near deaths and zombie battles that have occurred on the show thus far, it ranks very low on the unrealistic scale.
The zombies are just plot devices and the rules surrounding them constantly change. If you really want to nitpick, how are human teeth constantly biting through clothes or taking huge gashes out of people? How do the zombies seem so easily to be able to reach into a human chest and pull out organs?
Try biting through an uncooked steak or a piece of denim sometime. It's pretty hard. Even in some mindless crazed mode, your teeth and jaw muscles aren't going to be able to do it.
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11-26-2015, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by blankall
I'm not more invested than the people who are obsessed with it being impossible. Of all the near deaths and zombie battles that have occurred on the show thus far, it ranks very low on the unrealistic scale.
The zombies are just plot devices and the rules surrounding them constantly change. If you really want to nitpick, how are human teeth constantly biting through clothes or taking huge gashes out of people? How do the zombies seem so easily to be able to reach into a human chest and pull out organs?
Try biting through an uncooked steak or a piece of denim sometime. It's pretty hard. Even in some mindless crazed mode, your teeth and jaw muscles aren't going to be able to do it.
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I am not nitpicking the zombie portion, rather the spacial portion. You can't squeeze into 8' of space.
My approach to the show is, I am willing to extend a greater sense of disbelief to the zombies, why, well because they don't exist and we can't definitively say what they can or can't do. That sense of disbelief slows down when it comes to certain know things in our "universe", to me the idea a grown man could squish under a dumpster (8" of space) and them manipulate his body around to kill multiple walkers is well, annoying.
In short, twist the rules with walkers if you want, but try your best to keep the rules of our world the same. I find that this approach allows me to get in the show more, it allows me to wonder "hey what the hell would I do and where would I got during the Zombie apocalypse?".
It mantains a sense of "real" to the show.
Just my take.
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11-26-2015, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
^^^Why watch the show if it displeases you so much?
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I am far less interested in the show than I used to be. It used to be must see TV for me now I usually watch it 2-3 weeks later when I'm bored. It's out of habit more than anything. I just watched the last three episodes in rapid succession because I've been bed ridden with the flu, otherwise I still might not know that Glenn survived.
Also as a big fan of the comics I still am interested to see where they go with it. Sadly, the last season or two hasn't seen done the source material justice imo so I'm not holding out a lot of hope.
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