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Old 10-25-2004, 11:55 AM   #21
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Originally posted by calgaryred@Oct 25 2004, 11:47 AM
The non-call against the brutual closeline tackle that wasn't called weeks ago in the hamilton winnipeg game (I think it was this game) really made head office upset with the refereeing.
Yes, that was the game. I was at that game; and I thought there was going to be a riot.

I hadn't heard that the league had reviewed that play. Good to hear. Not only was it a bad call, but the Bomber fumbled on the 3 yard line. I imagine I might let go of the ball if my head was about to be ripped clean off.

I'm all for the physical play of football. I love to see a good clean hit. But stuff like that is un called for.
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Old 10-25-2004, 02:58 PM   #22
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Good column today on TSN about the controversey

http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/chris_s....asp?id=102700
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Old 10-25-2004, 02:59 PM   #23
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That said, while the Stamps definitely should challenge just on principle, I'm not sure I would want the league to overturn the decision. Sets a really dangerous precident.
Maybe it's time that precedent is set. I, for one, am tired of the supposed "infalibility" of the refs on the field...it's time for the league to make a statement that it's more concerned about the integrity of the game than the appearance of being perfect.

Yeah it's dangerous...what if this type of error had occurred in the middle of the game? Then the rest of the game would have been affected, and you couldn't conclusively say what the outcome would have been. Impossible situation. But in this case, where it is conclusive, I still think it's better to have the appearance of fairness than to simply hold fast and say "game's over, sorry!"

What I would do..? Overturn the result and immediately (before the playoffs) implement a video replay protocol. There are enough cameras on the field for every playoff game anyhow...use them. If they don't catch it, at least there's no video evidence to lead to this kind of controversy!
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Old 10-25-2004, 08:36 PM   #24
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Denied.

http://tsn.ca/cfl/news_story.asp?id=102728

Gotta love the first line in the story, though....

While admitting that game officials made a mistake, the Canadian Football League has denied a protest by the Calgary Stampeders following a controversial loss to the B.C. Lions on the weekend.


And they couldn't tell it from the TSN Broadcast ?

The league claimed early review of the TSN game footage was "inconclusive" as camera coverage did not provide a clear view of the field position of Calgary receiver Sulecio Sanford. However, the Stampeders produced video footage that was reviewed following the conclusion of the game, and it revealed that Sanford was onside in the seldom used Open Field Kick play.
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Old 10-26-2004, 12:20 AM   #25
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Well as mentioned above the fact the Stamps lost this game probably benefits them more long-term because they will get the #1 pick. Of course, some have suggested that winning the game would help them selll tix for next season - so a tough call.

But, if this incident helps the CFL get their heads out of the ground and actually do something about the horrible officiating then it will be worth it.
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Old 10-26-2004, 09:20 AM   #26
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Well the ironny is that the Stamps beat the Lions the previous game on a blown call. Now the Lions beat the Stamps thanks to a blown call. I think it's worth the time investment for Dunigan to do this so that the league can avoid these situations next year. The Stamps have come to life in the last month or so, and if something like replay can help them avoid a result like this in the first week of next season than it's worth it. It's also worth calling out the referees because how would the league look if the Grey Cup came down to a blown call? If something can be done now to improve officiating than it should be implemented for the playoffs.
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Old 10-26-2004, 09:31 AM   #27
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Well the ironny is that the Stamps beat the Lions the previous game on a blown call.

I don't think the two games are comparable. The refs did blow the call on the Stamps TD in the previous game, but that was after the refs blew about 3 other calls that really hurt the Stamps. BC had nothing to complain about in that game. Calgary did get into the end zone on a previous play and it was not counted. There were also some ridiculous pass interference calls that benefitted the Lions.
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Old 10-26-2004, 10:29 AM   #28
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Well the ironny is that the Stamps beat the Lions the previous game on a blown call.
Err, no. The blown call that Calgary won that game on was a makeup call for another blown call by the referees two plays earlier when they blew dead a Calgary TD without justification.

Take away all of the errors, and Calgary still wins both games.

MMM - It isnt the Stamps who make the CFL look bush league, it is the CFL itself that comes off bush league. The officials onfield were told by Dunnigan that he might try such a play, the play is in the rulebook, and of six officials, not one was paying enough attention to the play on field to get the call right.

This whole mess is on the CFL and it's incompetent officials, not the Stamps.
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Old 10-26-2004, 12:10 PM   #29
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I can't believe that Jake Ireland was not even mentioned in the article. His stubborness cost us the win because at least 1 of his linesman signalled it as a touchdown.

Fire Jake's ass now. What his email address??
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In my opinion, the worst part about the whole mess was that Jake Ireland was heard saying "did anyone see if 81 was onside?" while walking to the dressing room with the other officials. Isn't that something you ask them while you are on the field?

I'm not surprised the decision wasn't overturned. It should have been, but the CFL rules state the the only way a decision can be overturned is if the referee intentionally made the wrong call. While the Stamps obviously won, there is no evidence to say that Ireland intentionally screwed up. I don't agree with it, but hey..time to move on and kick some Bomber butt.
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