Explosion near Stadium in Paris, multiple shootings and hostage taking...

[KootenayFlamesFan]

CNN is now saying 149 dead now.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Have there been any details on whether the band was on stage or involved as hostages at the show?

The band says they are missing a bunch of crew members still.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Have there been any details on whether the band was on stage or involved as hostages at the show?

everything points to them making it out safely. The drummers mother tweeted that the band was safe, as did members of the Austrian band that played before the Eagles of Death Metal. Fate of crew members unknown though.

149 dead ... unbelievable.

[Deviaant]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Only way this ends is a ground war. When does that happen?

But who do you point the guns at when the enemy wears no flag and hides among the innocent.

[bigtmac19]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Have there been any details on whether the band was on stage or involved as hostages at the show?

Apparently their Facebook page is saying they are still trying to determine whereabouts of band members and crew

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

CNN is now saying 149 dead now.

That from the Concert alone or total? Not that it matters much. Still a gross number of innocent casualties.

[rubecube]

One nice thing about social media is that Facebook created something allowing people to check in as safe from the attacks. Just got the notifications for a couple of my Parisian friends.

[sharkov]

Originally Posted by dammage79

That from the Concert alone or total? Not that it matters much. Still a gross number of innocent casualties.

Probably over 100 in the concert hall and 40 elsewhere

[trackercowe]

Is there any linkage to what locations they're targeting? Or was it just purely at random where the most casualties or hostage threats can occur.

[taco.vidal]

Originally Posted by Dogbert

A Polish journalist in Calais is reporting that the Jungle refugee camp is, indeed, on fire currently:

https://twitter.com/sekielski

Sudanese camp

[Thor]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

These killings don't shake your faith in humanity, but the social media response does?

I'm guessing you are serious. So here I go.

I'm a secularist, I think religion is harmful and dangerous. When things like this happen I don't jump to "aha! told you so.!" Because I am not a child.

The world we live in is full of danger, horrible humans, and so many awful ideas that as a secularist, a skeptic, its hard to keep positive.

But even in the worst of these moments, I know that the vast majority of us are all horrified, and that gives me hope.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

That from the Concert alone or total? Not that it matters much. Still a gross number of innocent casualties.

Total. And it sounds like that number may still climb.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by devo22

not only France. Pretty sure this will also have a lasting impact on every other European country that has been affected by the recent mass immigration from Syria.

Oh yeah, this could be a game changer no doubt. There was already a rise in far right parties in Europe before this, you can only imagine this is going to inflame that even more. Not a good time to be a Muslim in Europe.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by sharkov

Probably over 100 in the concert hall and 40 elsewhere

Last bit of info from French news was 118 in the concert, and smatterings of info ranging from 35-60 outside of the concert. So I was a bit curious.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Tough call. It was ground wars that helped result in the creation of groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS. At the same time, can the world do nothing while groups like this slaughter thousands? Paris is only a drop in the bucket.

Which ground wars? I mean real occupation ground wars. Like iraq and afghanistan no longer exist

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Is there any linkage to what locations they're targeting? Or was it just purely at random where the most casualties or hostage threats can occur.

Impossible to know at this point. So much going on and so many separate reports.

Probably won't know anything tonght I bet.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

Aircraft carriers are already en route. I'd think it's safe to say the ground assault happens quickly and at a ferocious level.

Yeah, I heard the tv announce that it was thought that these attacks are in retaliation for the French government's recent announcement that they were going to start sending aircraft carriers over.

[GirlySports]

But the refugees are running away from ISIS too!

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Total. And it sounds like that number may still climb.

Almost certainly, as dozens were seriously injured and receiving treatment. Not all will make it, unfortunately.

I think I need to get away from this and go have a bite to eat and a drink. Even from a distance through French TV, it's horrific to watch something like that unfold; I can't even comprehend what it must be for people who are there.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

But the refugees are running away from ISIS too!

Dan Holloway @RFCdan To people blaming refugees for attacks in Paris tonight. Do you not realise these are the people the refugees are trying to run away from..?