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Old 11-11-2015, 12:50 AM   #161
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Goaltending is 70% of hockey, unless you don't have it - then it's 100%
Yep this is true. Out of 66 NHL goalies that have played this year in the NHL the Flames Save Pct ranks as follows.


60. Ramo .887
64. Ortio .868
66. Hiller .861
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:54 AM   #162
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Yep this is true. Out of 66 NHL goalies that have played this year in the NHL the Flames Save Pct ranks as follows.


60. Ramo .887
64. Ortio .868
66. Hiller .861
I think that alone tells you that there's way more to the situation than the goaltending.

It's just really unlikely that all three of our goalies all start sucking at the same time.
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:58 AM   #163
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I think that alone tells you that there's way more to the situation than the goaltending.

It's just really unlikely that all three of our goalies all start sucking at the same time.
Except they really have sucked at the same time. The 3 goalie monster seems to have sapped any confidence they had.

All of them played much better last season, sure they each had a stinker or two, but name one game where a goalie has stolen a game this year.
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:59 AM   #164
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Watched the replay on GLC as I didn't watch it live . came to check out CP and said nevermind after the first page. Calgary loss = Cp complete meltdown. Expectations are just too ####ing high this year.
You wanted more youth last year and you got it this year. This is what a younger team looks like.
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:24 AM   #165
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Except they really have sucked at the same time. The 3 goalie monster seems to have sapped any confidence they had.
I'm not saying that the way they've played is not a problem.

I'm just saying that bringing in other goalies probably wouldn't help. They would just start sucking the way our current guys are sucking.

In short, our defense has gone full Oiler.
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:42 AM   #167
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Yep this is true. Out of 66 NHL goalies that have played this year in the NHL the Flames Save Pct ranks as follows.


60. Ramo .887
64. Ortio .868
66. Hiller .861
I am actually starting to think that goaltending is the biggest strength. It is the only position where none of them are signed for next year.
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This forum is filled with people who hate too soon and love too soon, just give this team a damn chance. It hasn't even been 25% into the season, no reason to be making early speculations. Let's allow the season to play itself out and unfold on its own.
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Old 11-11-2015, 02:41 AM   #169
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The third goal goes in on any goalie however I would expect an elite D man like Brodie to not allow Ekblad to walk in for the easiest one timer of his season.
Not to nitpick too much but the third goal is all on Hudler imo. Can someone explain to me what he thought he was doing standing still and waiving his stick as Ekblad goes by? He is expecting Brodie to do it all. Usually Brodie does the almost impossible and covers these gaffs, but that was an embarrissing effort by Hudler.

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This looks like a confidence issue stemming from the fact that they're afraid to give up a shot because their goaltenders are playing horrible.
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The D has been bad, but soft goals are soft goals. That's the part tht really irks me. Every game one or 2 softies go in.

3-3 tie with 10 minutes left and Ramo lets that in? Yes bad play by Brodie, but its not like it was a bang bang play to the back of the net. I have center ice and watch a lot of hockey. Lots of D men cough up the puck up behind the net, but unless its a bang bang play, the goalies normally help cover up the D's mistake. Flames are not getting that this year.

Can't say i am a fan of either veteran goalie the flames have. I thought last year that Ramo looked like a 1b/ back-up goalie. Lots of posters saying there was untapped potential in Ramo. I'm starting to think last year might have been a career year for Ramo and he is not even worth a back-up spot. Trust me Hiller was not looking any better before his injury. The only reason i would give Hiller a back-up spot in the NHL, is that he is a veteran that has done it before.

I really don't want to see either goalie in the flames system next year.
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Hey CP, why does everyone feel it's a given that the Flames should get points off the Panthers? They were pretty near each other in the standings last year and this year's Panthers team is built much more solidly from top to bottom and getting excellent goaltending from Luongo.

With the way the Flames have played so far, there should be zero guaranteed points against any team. Maybe that's the problem. They didn't take the Panthers seriously enough.
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Let's trade for Mike Condon.
A backup goalie with great numbers.
That will solve the Flames problems.
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Hey CP, why does everyone feel it's a given that the Flames should get points off the Panthers? They were pretty near each other in the standings last year and this year's Panthers team is built much more solidly from top to bottom and getting excellent goaltending from Luongo.

With the way the Flames have played so far, there should be zero guaranteed points against any team. Maybe that's the problem. They didn't take the Panthers seriously enough.
Yeah, I don't understand it either. Florida was strong to start the season, but after Barkov got injured, they've been without a #1 center and you could see it very well.. So I had hopes Flames could pinch the 2 points out of this, I was wrong.
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I think that alone tells you that there's way more to the situation than the goaltending.

It's just really unlikely that all three of our goalies all start sucking at the same time.
Nope. This alone tells us that our goalies have played terrible this year. No team is going to be a playoff contender with those save percentages.

It's not like we are getting pummeled with shots every game either....what did the panthers have like 26 shots? Pathetic.
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Wow....so much hate for our blue liners. They weren't great. But Ramo continues to be gut wrenchingly brutal.

First goal from a bad angle ends up in a rebound into the slot. He slides too much out of position. 2nd goal bouncing around but he doesn't have a chance because he is on his butt.

At least one goal per game that he should have. Usually early. Then the defense starts running around.

This team goes no where this year with these goalies.
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Hey CP, why does everyone feel it's a given that the Flames should get points off the Panthers? They were pretty near each other in the standings last year and this year's Panthers team is built much more solidly from top to bottom and getting excellent goaltending from Luongo.

With the way the Flames have played so far, there should be zero guaranteed points against any team. Maybe that's the problem. They didn't take the Panthers seriously enough.
When you go into a barn with 10 fans in the stands you get a feeling like you can win one on the road. We scored enough on 7ou to win.
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Hey CP, why does everyone feel it's a given that the Flames should get points off the Panthers? They were pretty near each other in the standings last year and this year's Panthers team is built much more solidly from top to bottom and getting excellent goaltending from Luongo.

With the way the Flames have played so far, there should be zero guaranteed points against any team. Maybe that's the problem. They didn't take the Panthers seriously enough.
Panthers are as bad as oilers when it comes to tanking and sucking. So, yes a win was expected.
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The Brodie turnover on the game winning goal was pretty bad, but where is he supposed to go with the puck in that situation?

I think Giordano's positioning on the play was equally as bad as the pass.

Aside from the Flyers and Penguins game, the Flames have been brutal in their own end of the ice.
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