Justin Trudeau says marijuana should be legalized

[Coach]

Originally Posted by polak

Think of the Children!

On the one hand I totally agree that it's annoying to not be able to have a beer at the lake or something like that but have you ever walked down the strip in Vegas at night while sober? It's the worst.

Yes, but the Vegas strip is not the "rule" for open alcohol. Those people aren't the worst because they can drink in public. They're the worst because their drunk on the street in Vegas.

There are still laws that can be used to deter disorderly conduct, regardless of whether you're drinking or not.

[GGG]

I think if you had a good way of preventing public drunkeness then open liquor being allowed makes sense. But then post university I've never gotten a ticket and I'll drink beer pretty much anywhere. I've found no one bothers you if you are discreet and not drunk. (Even floating down the river)

I think limiting it to bar districts makes it worse you don't want people pre drinking in the parking lot outside the bar getting hammered. You do want to be able to drink a beer while shopping or walking through the zoo

[polak]

Originally Posted by rubecube

It's not like a cider is any worse for me than Coke, yet I'm allowed to drink Coke anywhere I want.

Snort it. It works better.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by GGG

I think limiting it to bar districts makes it worse you don't want people pre drinking in the parking lot outside the bar getting hammered. You do want to be able to drink a beer while shopping or walking through the zoo

I always tell my girlfriend that I'll start going shopping with her when they start allowing open alcohol in the malls. As it is, I pretty much just lose my #### within like 20 minutes of being in those things.

[Drak]

On the topic of edibles and off topic of legislation.

The interesting thing about vaping is you can save the leftover brown material (as long as you didn't incinerate by actually setting it to way high smoke temps) and consume it at some other point. You get sort of a 2 for 1 deal that way.

[FlamesAddiction]

I was talking about the whole drinking in public thing with my cousins in Croatia before. We were out drinking and it is so ingrained in me that drinking in public is illegal, that I kept feeling the need to hide it. They couldn't understand why it would be illegal in the first place. I mentioned that in Canada, people often "pre-drink" a little extra before going to another destination because we can't drink on the way. I think most of us have experienced chugging a drink or two before heading out, and then being way more drunk in public than we intended (or maybe just as drunk anyway).

So yeah, I am not sure that open liquor laws really do anything positive.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I was talking about the whole drinking in public thing with my cousins in Croatia before. We were out drinking and it is so ingrained in me that drinking in public is illegal, that I kept feeling the need to hide it. They couldn't understand why it would be illegal in the first place. I mentioned that in Canada, people often "pre-drink" a little extra before going to another destination because we can't drink on the way. I most of us have experience chugging a drink or two before heading out, and then being way more drunk in public than we intended (or maybe just as drunk anyway).

So yeah, I am not sure that open liquor laws really do anything positive.

What about requirements to keep a newly bought bottle in a brown bag? Is that still a thing?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Drak

What about requirements to keep a newly bought bottle in a brown bag? Is that still a thing?

I didn't even realize it was a thing to be honest.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Drak

What about requirements to keep a newly bought bottle in a brown bag? Is that still a thing?

No, long since gone.
Open liquor can even be transported from legal place of consumption to legal place of consumption, as long as it is out of reach of the driver.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I always tell my girlfriend that I'll start going shopping with her when they start allowing open alcohol in the malls. As it is, I pretty much just lose my #### within like 20 minutes of being in those things.

4 step process:
1. Can opener to take top off can of coke.
2. Scissors to cut down coke can along white swoosh to near bottom of can.
3. Insert fresh beer of choice into coke sleeve.
4. Enjoy shopping with your refreshing drink.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by Drak

What about requirements to keep a newly bought bottle in a brown bag? Is that still a thing?

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I didn't even realize it was a thing to be honest.

Transporting any alcoholic beverage over ABV of 5% in a paper bag remains a requirement under a number of statutes and common law, most notably under Section 55(b)iv of the "Hobo Code of Alberta (1965)"

[Superflyer]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Why? I think it's pretty damn stupid that we have open liquor laws, too.

Originally Posted by AcGold

You don't even see doors on some of those cafes, walk by and get a little light headed. In my life I've not seen a single violent incident by someone on pot, I've seen dozens around bars and campuses where idiots think they're tough. It was hilarious in Amsterdam when some of the people were so high they were laying on the ground with their face on the window completely spaced out.

They aren't even close, pot doesn't take away inhibition or critical thinking like with alcohol and it doesnt make people lose control (for the most part, some people aren't cutout for any drug)

This would be my main reason to not allow pot smoking in public places. Second hand pot smoke is much different then tobacco smoke. Sure there is the think of the children thing here but imagine a teacher being able to smoke a joint around a group of students and they are getting at least a bit high of the second hand smoke.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Superflyer

This would be my main reason to not allow pot smoking in public places. Second hand pot smoke is much different then tobacco smoke. Sure there is the think of the children thing here but imagine a teacher being able to smoke a joint around a group of students and they are getting at least a bit high of the second hand smoke.

Do you know of many teachers who smoke cigarettes around their students?

Having worked in a couple of schools, I can't think of one time I've seen a teacher smoking on school grounds.

This is mostly definitely worthy of a "won't someone think of the children".

[Sainters7]

Why would a teacher (or any employee) be smoking weed at work though? Even if it becomes legal, I would assume it would fall in line more with alcohol than tobacco. A teacher smoking a doobie on their break should be the same as a teacher having a beer on their break: not tolerated.


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[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

Why would a teacher (or any employee) be smoking weed at work though? Even if it becomes legal, I would assume it would fall in line more with alcohol than tobacco. A teacher smoking a doobie on their break should be the same as a teacher having a beer on their break: not tolerated.


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I had an assistant principle in high school who kept a bottle of rye in his desk. Lord knows if I were a teacher, I'd probably need a couple of drinks to get me through a day of dealing with everyone else's awful kids.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Superflyer

This would be my main reason to not allow pot smoking in public places. Second hand pot smoke is much different then tobacco smoke. Sure there is the think of the children thing here but imagine a teacher being able to smoke a joint around a group of students and they are getting at least a bit high of the second hand smoke.

In that one is worse than the other? Or just different, and thus scarier?

I agree in principal, but cigarette smoke falls under the same principal. If you're going to allow cigarette smoking in public spaces (and even vaping inside) the same rules should apply for MJ. If you're going to ban MJ you sure as hell better ban cigarette smoke.

One of the main reasons I want this is so when my buddies go out for a dart, I can join them and not choose between sitting at a table on my own, or standing outside needlessly inhaling cigarette smoke.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by MattyC

In that one is worse than the other? Or just different, and thus scarier?

I agree in principal, but cigarette smoke falls under the same principal. If you're going to allow cigarette smoking in public spaces (and even vaping inside) the same rules should apply for MJ. If you're going to ban MJ you sure as hell better ban cigarette smoke.

One of the main reasons I want this is so when my buddies go out for a dart, I can join them and not choose between sitting at a table on my own, or standing outside needlessly inhaling cigarette smoke.

Matty, if one inhales second hand pot smoke can they get a high?

[polak]

1 Beer =/= 1 Joint.

Not even close. 1 joint can get 3 or 4 people pretty messed.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Matty, if one inhales second hand pot smoke can they get a high?

Honestly no idea definitively. Seems logical but it would definitely depend on the amount. Can someone get cancer from second hand cig smoke? We know this is true.

Either way some of it is going to need to come down to common courtesy. As it stands someone can stand beside your kid and smoke til their blue in the face. Its a dick move and youd be fully in your right to ask them to stop. Smokers should be aware of whos around them and act accordingly regardkesd of what theyre inhaling

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Honestly no idea definitively. Seems logical but it would definitely depend on the amount. Can someone get cancer from second hand cig smoke? We know this is true.

Either way some of it is going to need to come down to common courtesy. As it stands someone can stand beside your kid and smoke til their blue in the face. Its a dick move and youd be fully in your right to ask them to stop. Smokers should be aware of whos around them and act accordingly regardkesd of what theyre inhaling

Smoking is nasty, plain and simple.


My concern immediate affects of 2nd hand pot smoke v tobacco smoke. Your mental state isn't altered by 2nd hand tobacco smoke. If 2nd hand pot smoke causes a "high" that, for me is a concern.