10-18-2015, 02:31 PM
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#3821
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
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A private meeting in Ottawa with the federal Liberal leader is also revealing.
Do I call him 'Mr. Trudeau?' " she asks an aide, who assures her "Justin" is fine.
"I'm old enough to be his mother. I'm not quite old enough to be his grandmother. What is he, 40? I'm 61, boys, I'm old enough to be his mother," the premier says with a wry laugh.
In the meeting, Trudeau, 43, is deferential and solicitous, eagerly seeking her advice.
"The conversation we'll have to have to have when you're prime minister is how do we have a rational infrastructure plan that's going to allow us to do that long-term planning," she tells him.
"So, you just went through the election. (What) would you be thinking if you were in my shoes right now?" he says.
A bullish Wynne replies: "I think the people really want to know that there's a plan. Show people what you think the future is going to look like and how we're going to get there."
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10-18-2015, 02:32 PM
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#3822
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: YSJ (1979-2002) -> YYC (2002-2022) -> YVR (2022-present)
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Originally Posted by adc
In my neighbourhood no, but if we have to go downtown then yes there are.
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Really? Drunks downtown scream at your children? I live downtown, and I do see the occasional drunkard, but for the most part they keep to themselves or are passed out in an alley. I have never -- not even once -- witnessed a drunk person scream at a child.
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10-18-2015, 02:33 PM
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#3823
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Originally Posted by heep223
Are you being sarcastic? What a backwards view. "Safe from it"? You really think that keeping pot illegal is going to limit your kids ability or desire to use it? Do you not remember your days in junior high and high school? It's extremely easy to attain, it's completely unregulated (so you don't really know what's in it which IMO is one of the biggest issues), it's relatively cheap, and it's lining the pockets of the criminal class.
Legalizing it will put it on the same level as alcohol. Regulated, more difficult for minors to get, and taxed. It will put the dealers, distributors and growers out of business, who are the real offenders and in some cases violent.
What's the difference between alcohol and marijuana, really? Remember alcohol was also illegal for a period of time. Do you drink? Alcohol is actually way worse for the body than pot.
Btw I don't use marijuana, nor do any of my friends or family.
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No I do not drink.
I do remember junior high and high school it was not that easy to get it (I went to school in Calgary so not some isolated tiny village or anything) and it was much easier to get the legal and regulated alcohol. Marijuana is much worse in my view than alcohol.
I think legalizing pot will definitely do more to legitimize so yes I think it will be harder to prevent my children from doing it.
Personally I think the better way to stop the criminals from selling it is to make the punishments real punishments not the weak punishments they have now. If you are caught selling you are in jail for life no parole. Caught with any marijuana even as little as one joint, ten years in jail minimum.
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10-18-2015, 02:33 PM
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#3824
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Originally Posted by adc
In my neighbourhood no, but if we have to go downtown then yes there are.
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I live in the burbs and work downtown and holy god you are the most suburban person I have ever seen.
I hope the last time a drunk person screamed at your children he didn't get any spittle on your tennis bag, polo shirt, v-neck, or sweater wrapped around your waist.
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Originally Posted by adc
Personally I think the better way to stop the criminals from selling it is to make the punishments real punishments not the weak punishments they have now. If you are caught selling you are in jail for life no parole. Caught with any marijuana even as little as one joint, ten years in jail minimum.
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10-18-2015, 02:35 PM
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#3825
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: YSJ (1979-2002) -> YYC (2002-2022) -> YVR (2022-present)
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Originally Posted by adc
Personally I think the better way to stop the criminals from selling it is to make the punishments real punishments not the weak punishments they have now. If you are caught selling you are in jail for life no parole. Caught with any marijuana even as little as one joint, ten years in jail minimum.
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ayy lmao
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10-18-2015, 02:36 PM
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#3826
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
Really? Drunks downtown scream at your children? I live downtown, and I do see the occasional drunkard, but for the most part they keep to themselves or are passed out in an alley. I have never -- not even once -- witnessed a drunk person scream at a child.
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I live in Lethbridge, not Calgary, so it may be different but yes going downtown more often than not means walking around a passed out drunk, being harassed for change or a smoke and then being yelled at for not giving any, avoiding being run into by a stumbling drunk, having sexual comments made about me by drunks.
If I have to walk anything more than from my car right into the store, and often that is too much time, I expect to have a negative interaction with a drunk.
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10-18-2015, 02:36 PM
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#3827
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
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10-18-2015, 02:46 PM
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#3828
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
ayy lmao
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Why do you keep doing this? What does it mean?
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10-18-2015, 02:48 PM
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#3829
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Self Imposed Exile
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
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I have never understood some of the conservatives hard-on to enforce jail time for non-violent crimes.
From a Conservative point of view, jail costs $100,000 per year per inmate from the tax base, removes any income this inmate used to pay in tax, and lowers the future income this inmate will pay in tax once out of jail (using the argument that people whom go to jail are less likely to make as much money once out)
I am not saying we forgive and forget, but community service would actually help others. Jail doesn't make people better, and it costs money.
You are a actual threat to people, you belong in jail, otherwise (for the most part), lets save some money, and show humanity.
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10-18-2015, 02:50 PM
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#3830
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Why do you keep doing this? What does it mean?
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10-18-2015, 02:54 PM
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#3831
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Originally Posted by adc
I live in Lethbridge, not Calgary, so it may be different but yes going downtown more often than not means walking around a passed out drunk, being harassed for change or a smoke and then being yelled at for not giving any, avoiding being run into by a stumbling drunk, having sexual comments made about me by drunks.
If I have to walk anything more than from my car right into the store, and often that is too much time, I expect to have a negative interaction with a drunk.
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Ha ha. What a bunch of bull$hit. I've lived in Lethbridge and unless it has turned into Old Detroit in the last 10 years (and they conveniently hide the hordes of belligerent drunks when I personally come to visit) then you are pretty much just making things up. Trolling, as someone said.
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10-18-2015, 02:57 PM
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#3832
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Originally Posted by Kavvy
I have never understood some of the conservatives hard-on to enforce jail time for non-violent crimes.
From a Conservative point of view, jail costs $100,000 per year per inmate from the tax base, removes any income this inmate used to pay in tax, and lowers the future income this inmate will pay in tax once out of jail (using the argument that people whom go to jail are less likely to make as much money once out)
I am not saying we forgive and forget, but community service would actually help others. Jail doesn't make people better, and it costs money.
You are a actual threat to people, you belong in jail, otherwise (for the most part), lets save some money, and show humanity.
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I don't expect much tax money coming from potheads or much earning potential from them anyways.
You are right it may initially have a big wave of inmates and cost but I think you would see a reduction when those losers are off the street for 10+ years and people realize the punishment isn't worth the limited (if any) benefits of doing drugs.
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10-18-2015, 02:59 PM
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#3833
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Ha ha. What a bunch of bull$hit. I've lived in Lethbridge and unless it has turned into Old Detroit in the last 10 years (and they conveniently hide the hordes of belligerent drunks when I personally come to visit) then you are pretty much just making things up. Trolling, as someone said.
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If you are saying there aren't a lot drunks in downtown Lethbridge, especially around Galt Gardens, then it is you that is full of BS.
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10-18-2015, 03:05 PM
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#3834
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fantasy Island
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Originally Posted by Flaming Homer
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Total troll. If selling marijuana comes with a life sentence, then by that logic almost every other crime needs to also come with a life sentence. DUI? Life, no parole. Illegal handgun? Life, no parole. Jaywalking? Life, no parole.
Why the hell not, really. It'd get those screaming-at-children drunks off the street if nothing else. Drunk in public? Life sentence!! No parole.
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10-18-2015, 03:12 PM
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#3835
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Best part about that is that if you ignore the obviously slanted, standard-fare summaries of opponent's positions on the placard, the message is obviously correct: the leader isn't what's important; it's the platform.
Obviously, though, that cuts both ways, and the NDP and Liberals are relying just as heavily on "F Harper" as the CPC are on "Just Not Ready", if not more so.
The one with Harper constantly standing up and buttoning his jacket in question period over and over again in multiple frames is also a really solid political ad, even though it really has no content.
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To be fair, if you're not doing this while wearing a suit you are committing a crime against fashion. Wear your suits properly, people.
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10-18-2015, 03:16 PM
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#3836
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by adc
I don't expect much tax money coming from potheads or much earning potential from them anyways.
You are right it may initially have a big wave of inmates and cost but I think you would see a reduction when those losers are off the street for 10+ years and people realize the punishment isn't worth the limited (if any) benefits of doing drugs.
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10-18-2015, 03:16 PM
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#3837
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by adc
I don't expect much tax money coming from potheads or much earning potential from them anyways.
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Haha are you serious? Yeah I don't think Canada gets much revenue from tobacco or alcohol either.
You're grossly underestimating the numbers and types of people that smoke pot. But hey, as long as your kids are sheltered from it.
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Originally Posted by Peanut
Total troll.
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You also forgot to call everyone that jaywalks a jaywalking loser.
Dregs of society, really.
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10-18-2015, 03:18 PM
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#3838
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by adc
Negatively effect the economy, especially the oil field, which directly hurts me and family as well as many friends of mine. I am totally against his stance on marijuana so that will have a very big negative impact especially with me having young kids that will soon become teens.
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Explain the hurt the economy in words different from all the Harper ads.
It's not like he's making it legal for under 18 to get their hands on marijuana. If your kids are going to want to try it against your wishes it's not like its hard to get any right now... just the money is going to drug dealers instead of the government.
Decriminize/legalize - it's only going to change where the money goes to, teens if they want weed right now can get weed with or without the parents knowing.
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10-18-2015, 03:22 PM
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#3839
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by adc
I don't expect much tax money coming from potheads or much earning potential from them anyways.
You are right it may initially have a big wave of inmates and cost but I think you would see a reduction when those losers are off the street for 10+ years and people realize the punishment isn't worth the limited (if any) benefits of doing drugs.
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I don't understand the "Hard of drugs" line of thinking, it's proven that the war on drugs doesn't work (look south of us). Minimums and jail time for drug possession does NOT work, and no, having someone in jail for 10 years for having 2 ounces of marijuana on him is more costly than having him on the streets.
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10-18-2015, 03:33 PM
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#3840
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Originally Posted by adc
No I do not drink.
I do remember junior high and high school it was not that easy to get it (I went to school in Calgary so not some isolated tiny village or anything) and it was much easier to get the legal and regulated alcohol. Marijuana is much worse in my view than alcohol.
I think legalizing pot will definitely do more to legitimize so yes I think it will be harder to prevent my children from doing it.
Personally I think the better way to stop the criminals from selling it is to make the punishments real punishments not the weak punishments they have now. If you are caught selling you are in jail for life no parole. Caught with any marijuana even as little as one joint, ten years in jail minimum.
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Wow 10 years for a joint and life for dealing eh? Yes, let's feed the prison system more slaves like they do in the USA and send people away for years on end for stupid petty offenses. Let's burden our prison system with stupid sentences.
This and your comments about Trudeau making Canada unsafe and a bad place to live for Canadians are the most ridiculous viewpoints I've seen in quite some time.
You are beyond extreme.
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