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Old 10-11-2015, 01:04 AM   #3181
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Yes, it's a great ad. I watched The Real Change Now rally live on CPAC and that swung my vote. It was so refreshing to hear a positive vision for our country.

I voted today for Matt Grant in Calgary Confederation. The turnout was quite good at around 12:30 pm and a steady stream of people were coming in as I was leaving.

I don't think anyone is winning a majority and it will go down to the wire.
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Old 10-11-2015, 01:16 AM   #3182
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In the end, I find myself feeling glad of this extended campaign. It allowed lots of time for the various leaders and parties to demonstrate their true character and values.

I was never a fan of this Conservative government, but they've really shown their true colours over the course of this campaign, and I hope it only gets worse for them over the next 9 days. They've shown themselves to be morally bankrupt, cynical, and power hungry. I'd hate to think where Canadian politics would go if we gifted them another term in office after the way they've handled themselves.
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Good ad, it brings back the old Trudeaumania of 68. I like the enthusiasm and the part that it tries to unite Canadians but in the long run it means little as far as policy goes.


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Old 10-11-2015, 03:29 AM   #3184
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My wife and I went to the advance polls yesterday, to see how difficult it would be to vote in our new riding (having just moved last month and not having govt-issued ID with the new address yet) and have time to fix anything we needed to fix if we couldn't vote that day.

It was a total breeze. We probably spent a grand total of 20 minutes at the poll. It was pretty quiet for our riding, but I saw the lineups for some stretching out past the "45 minute wait" markers.
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Old 10-11-2015, 04:01 AM   #3185
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Wow. This was the ad that played during the game tonight. I don't watch TV aside from sports, so maybe they have played this for a while, but it is a fantastic political ad.

Yep. I mean it's ripped straight from the Obama playbook but it's a flawless ad.
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My argument against the conservatives:

Harper is putting a muzzle on scientists.
Our last minister of science and technology for Canada was a god damn creationist & chiropractor and currently he's a "insurance professional" with a philosophy degree; Like how this isn't a bigger deal I am dumbfounded, instant wtf?

Don't like how they sold gm stocks owned by all of us citizens recently, just so that harper can balance his budget just this 1 time, for less than what it's worth at a future date in order to campaign a "balanced budget".

I don't like the second class citizen stuff. It's worked up until now, why change this? Just more power to the ruling government.

Bill c-51; way too vague with a general description meaning more power and discretion left to the government. (Although Trudeau did support it earlier, don't know the liberal stance on it now)

Why not legalize marijuana? I think everyone can agree it's just a matter of time.... Why not make that time now and make some money off of it? The money is already there and being spent at this very moment, it's not like after it's legalized marijuana consumption will jump up 400% from 0% and have everyone and there dog smoking it.
Why fight it and spend tax payer money on judges, police, and jails instead of making money off of it and doing the opposite; paying judges, police, and prison guards with it freeing up room in the budget?

I like that America has the 2 term maximum. I don't think a democracy should be under the same person in charge for too long, he/she will get too comfortable and loose with laws and regulations.
Let's be honest here; we are voting in career politicians, they aren't the Elon musks, and Albert Einsteins of the world.

Finally, knowing of a upcoming election, beforehand, the conservatives should of had a open restructuring with the public. The current leader of the party stepping down or challenging his potential new replacements in sort of a conservative "Gop debate".
Reading through this forum, other Internet forums, and talking to some friends/family I honestly feel the conservatives would have a lot more support on there side and would be leading in the polls. We have individuals of conservative ideology which are strategically voting to avoid another "Harper government"
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Those are some of the same reasons I am sick of the conservatives as well Laughman.

I've said it time and again, Harper has been more damaging to the energy industry in Canada, particularly Alberta than most people give him credit for. Abolishing royalty income trusts and shutting down state owned enterprises from investing in our projects that require multimillion dollar capex commitments and long term viewpoints, and being weak on keystone/oil sands PR globally has done more to damage the oil and gas industry in Alberta than anything commodity price fluctuations and the Provincial NDP have done. Not only that but he is quietly gutting our nuclear power capabilities - how on earth are we going to realistically meet our climate change objectives and help other countries also do so without destroying our economy if we take away our expertise in fission technologies?

Don't get me started on his destruction of science in the Country.

The guy is perpetually afraid, his policy, action and dialogue reflect it. Not the leader I want.

I don't love that the Liberals will increase taxes but at least they have a vision for the Country. I don't really want them in more than I want Harper gone.
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Old 10-11-2015, 06:26 AM   #3188
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Has anyone watched the Vice interview of Trudeau?

http://en.daily.vice.com/page/vice-meets-justin-trudeau

They're going to interview Mulcair too, I think that #### is going to be awkward as ####.
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Old 10-11-2015, 08:48 AM   #3189
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Yep. I mean it's ripped straight from the Obama playbook but it's a flawless ad.
People talk about how Canada is always about 10 years behind the States politically, and I guess this is more proof of that.

The best answer to a neo-con government trading on fear is a campaign based on hope instead. With some luck, we'll follow the States' lead in this election. I don't really want to think about what Canada would look like with another 8 years of Harper at the helm.

Can you imagine where the US might be if the Republicans had maintained presidential power for the last 8 years? Yikes.
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Edit - just realized it's visible in the top left corner haha
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Even seeing his face pisses me off. Ashamed to have that weasel as our leader.
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Old 10-11-2015, 10:25 AM   #3192
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Most of you are probably well aware of the advance polls, but if you've never done it before, you really should. I started using them ages ago, and I'll never go back to voting on election night. Although some advance polls do sound to be quite busy, it will probably still beat the parking, lineups, and general hassle of doing it on the 19th.

They're open today and tomorrow, from noon until 8pm. Just check your voter card for the location and swing by before your turkey gluttony session.
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They premiered it starting tonight (I'm on the Liberal Party email list and got an email about it a few minutes before it aired during the game). The new campaign slogan, "Ready." is an absolute masterstroke of advertising. Whoever thought to co-opt the Conservative line of "He's just not ready" and turn it around is a marketing genius. No matter what political party you support, I hope everyone can appreciate what a great ad this is from an advertising perspective.

Also, I'm 100% sure the Harper attack machine is already preparing an ad in which they play Trudeau saying, "It's time to raise taxes on the wealthiest 1% so we can cut them for the middle class" but take it out of context so it's just a clip of him saying, "It's time to raise taxes..."
Yeah, I said from the beginning that I thought the 'Just not ready' ads were a bad idea for the CPC because they lowered expectations about Trudeau and ensured he would look better than expected, and created the perception that inexperience was his only weakness. Great strategy by the Liberals to first address and embrace it with the previous 'I'll tell you what I'm not ready to do' ad. And now adopt it as a tag line. They've got the perception of momentum in the polls, and this is a perfect ad for channelling that. It's a 'get on this fun bandwagon' ad. They're going to clean up on those left-wing fence-sitters in the closing week, and probably draw from the middle-right fence pretty well, too.
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I don't believe that photo is from a Sun article. Fixed.

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Good ad, it brings back the old Trudeaumania of 68. I like the enthusiasm and the part that it tries to unite Canadians but in the long run it means little as far as policy goes.
I have been watching a lot of the old debates on Youtube and I have to be honest, I don't know what the big appeal of Trudeau senior was. Not speaking about policy, but rather just the cult of personality around him and Trudeaumania.

I also have to say that Justin Trudeau seems a lot different than his father. He has the same confidence, but seems like less of a prick.
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Those are some of the same reasons I am sick of the conservatives as well Laughman.

I've said it time and again, Harper has been more damaging to the energy industry in Canada, particularly Alberta than most people give him credit for. Abolishing royalty income trusts and shutting down state owned enterprises from investing in our projects that require multimillion dollar capex commitments and long term viewpoints, and being weak on keystone/oil sands PR globally has done more to damage the oil and gas industry in Alberta than anything commodity price fluctuations and the Provincial NDP have done. Not only that but he is quietly gutting our nuclear power capabilities - how on earth are we going to realistically meet our climate change objectives and help other countries also do so without destroying our economy if we take away our expertise in fission technologies?

Don't get me started on his destruction of science in the Country.

The guy is perpetually afraid, his policy, action and dialogue reflect it. Not the leader I want.

I don't love that the Liberals will increase taxes but at least they have a vision for the Country. I don't really want them in more than I want Harper gone.

The drop in the commodity price has been far more detrimental to the state of Alberta's economy than any other factor. If the price of oil was still $110 the economy would be doing well, regardless of whatever you think Harper has done.

As for foreign investment, the only foreign acquisition the federal government has rejected was in Saskatchewan for PotashCorp. Since Harper's been in power, there have been billions of dollars in foreign investment in the Canadian oil industry.


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Harper and the CPC have not helped the energy sector. The biggest failing is them not helping our export strategies. In my opinion this stems from the CPC being adverserial instead of constructive with First Nations. Everybody knows they have to be a partner in the process except for the CPC. They won't spend any political capital on the important issues.
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People talk about how Canada is always about 10 years behind the States politically, and I guess this is more proof of that.

The best answer to a neo-con government trading on fear is a campaign based on hope instead. With some luck, we'll follow the States' lead in this election. I don't really want to think about what Canada would look like with another 8 years of Harper at the helm.

Can you imagine where the US might be if the Republicans had maintained presidential power for the last 8 years? Yikes.
I agree, and as a plus we don't have a republican controlled house that will try and prevent every piece of progressive legislation out of spite because they didn't win.
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Has anyone watched the Vice interview of Trudeau?

http://en.daily.vice.com/page/vice-meets-justin-trudeau

They're going to interview Mulcair too, I think that #### is going to be awkward as ####.
The problem with this interview is that it is completely biased. If you're going to call yourself a news organisation you have an obligation to the people to be unbiased and fair and this is not either. This is why the CBC is so important and is what America lacks. I think Peter Mansbridge did a pretty good job at interviewing the 3 candidates. My problem with Vice is that they pick and choose what they cover and it's essentially the left version of Fox "News." I understand what they're trying to do, but you can't right a wrong with another wrong.
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