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Old 09-28-2015, 06:10 PM   #2441
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Right, but I'm saying you probably don't care about the issue because it doesn't really affect you. That's not meant as an insult or anything, just reflection of how most people vote.
What you say is true, it doesn't effect me, and it is true when you say that is how people approach their vote.

What I'm saying is, while I'm fine (to the point of being indifferent) with a womans right to choose, I don't feel that taxpayer funded abortions for refugee's is something I can rally behind. Getting a realistic number of people out of a warzone is important, getting them out so they can have an abortion here, is not.
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Trudeau hasn't stepped in to say anything for some time now.
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Mulcair makes zero sense on Keystone.
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Do you think we should reject pregnant refugees then. What do you propose we do with them?
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I'm sorry, but a refugee woman's right to have an abortion here registers right above what color the drapes are at 24 Sussex drive for me in terms of election importance.
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Mulcair is catching tons of flies and it isn't cause he smells of honey.
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Harper winning this one by clear margin so far. At least in English.
I don't know. It's been pretty even, IMO, but that's all Harper needs to come out looking like the winner.
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:17 PM   #2448
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Do you think we should reject pregnant refugees then. What do you propose we do with them?
If they go through the refugee process? Yes, accept pregnant women.

If they decide when they get here they want an abortion, then yes, have an abortion.

Mulcair telling me I should be shedding tears because we can't get ALL the pregnant women here for an abortion? Gimmie a break.
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:17 PM   #2449
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Shocking.
I'm with him, though. It's of zero importance to me what the answer is, even though I am 100% sure that the correct answer is "yes" (IIRC Morgentaler decision was predicated on s.7 which applies to everyone, not just citizens).

Thing is, even if whoever gets elected gets that question wrong, it's of just so little impact in comparison with many other policies that it's barely a blip on the radar, IMO. These are the classic "get everyone riled up emotional rah rah issues that have little practical effect and drown out other matters that while boring, significantly affect millions". Skip 'em.

(EDIT: I should also point out that if they get it wrong they're probably going to get smacked around by the court given my earlier rationale for why the answer is "yes, let them have abortions on the same basis as Canadian women".)
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:18 PM   #2450
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Shocking.
Well, that's were it sits for me, yes.

So where do we go from here now Makarov?
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Did Justin just say Canadians are worrying about our jobs because Steve doesn't like Obama?

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Old 09-28-2015, 06:19 PM   #2452
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Oh good, Israel talk.
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:20 PM   #2453
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Did Trudeau just say that contributing to UN Peacekeeping will create jobs?

wut?
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How come Trudeau now sounds like a woman with a Quebecois accent?
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:22 PM   #2455
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This Aussie translator is much better.
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The whole world is frustrated with Canada eh Justin?

2% of the emissions in the world...but we are the ones they are mad at.

God....how can anyone buy this drivel?
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:27 PM   #2458
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If Trudeau has a speech, he looks/sounds great.

When he has to speak off the cuff he sounds like a complete vapid tool.

Also, I'm getting very sick of hearing about how Canada needs to differ power to the UN, or form coalition's with other nation states to determine our own outcome.
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Did Trudeau just say that contributing to UN Peacekeeping will create jobs?

wut?
Pretty sure Harper also said he'll believe Iran's words and not their actions.
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:30 PM   #2460
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Also, I'm getting very sick of hearing about how Canada needs to differ power to the UN, or form coalition's with other nation states to determine our own outcome.
Why? Most IR theorists and academics consistently advise in favour of consensus and cooperation.
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