09-24-2015, 10:53 PM
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#1321
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Utterly bizarre.
Trying to reconcile (1) the authenticity of the found evidence bag with (2) the apparent fraud with respect to how it was found and (3) the County's position that all evidence is accounted for... mind bottling.
Firing your client in a public case like this is no small deal though, and not a step you take on a whim.
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09-24-2015, 11:17 PM
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#1322
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Originally Posted by Meers
Ah yes, the old "pay off the defendant's lawyer to step down from the case" gambit. Classic!
Especially after having had said defence lawyer first leak the name of his own client to the press.
(So, what's the over-under on the timing of her sexual history becoming public? I'm guessing 18 hours.)
There will be case studies of this defence taught in law school for many years to come.
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The flaw in your theory... It wasn't the defence lawyer. In fact, the lawyer would not have been part of the prosecution.
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09-25-2015, 12:11 AM
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#1323
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I'm so baffled by this whole thing. The ex-lawyer would never say he doesn't believe the accuser. Having said that, he seemed to go out of his way to let the public know this has nothing to do with the veracity of the claim.
On the other hand of the other hand of the other hand, if the mother is sneaky, why drop the client? Granted he's not needed as he's only doing a service for the family and not actually the prosecutor, but it seems wholly weird and shows nothing we have seen can be believed at this point.
I still don't think the accuser is lying, but the credibility of damaged. I've never been sure Kane is lying either.
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09-25-2015, 03:34 AM
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#1324
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Sounds like the case is falling apart.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...44315482121910
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The Tribune previously has reported that Kane spent the night of Aug. 1 at SkyBar, a popular nightclub about 15 miles from his Hamburg home, and he stayed past midnight with friends. An off-duty Buffalo police officer drove Kane, a male friend, the accuser and her friend to the player's home after leaving the bar.
Multiple sources told the Tribune that the female friend — a college classmate — no longer fully backs the accuser's version of events and has expressed reluctance to testify. Without her corroboration, it would be harder for prosecutors to move the case forward, those sources said.
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09-25-2015, 07:42 AM
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#1325
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The more the case goes on the more I believe Kane is 100% innocent. If it's found out she fabricated the story she needs to be thrown in jail for a long time.
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09-25-2015, 07:42 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Can someone please hit me with some cliff notes to sum everything up.
the lawyer dropped the accuser because the mom tampered with the evidence? what?
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09-25-2015, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
The more the case goes on the more I believe Kane is 100% innocent. If it's found out she fabricated the story she needs to be thrown in jail for a long time.
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If that is the case I'm sure she/ they will claim some sort of mental disorder (if that is still a term we can use), and ensure she gets the "proper help".
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09-25-2015, 07:48 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)
Can someone please hit me with some cliff notes to sum everything up.
the lawyer dropped the accuser because the mom tampered with the evidence? what?
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To put it simply, the lawyer is no longer representing the accuser's family because he no longer believes the story about how the mother got the evidence bag. He still claims it is a legitimate evidence bag
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09-25-2015, 08:05 AM
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#1329
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Lawyers are ethically permitted to withdraw if they have lost confidence in their client telling them the truth, at least in Alberta. The relevant part of the Code of Conduct is as follows, including commentary:
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Optional Withdrawal
2.07 (2) If there has been a serious loss of confidence between the lawyer and the client, the lawyer may withdraw.
Commentary
A lawyer may have a justifiable cause for withdrawal in circumstances indicating a loss of confidence, for example, if a lawyer is deceived by the client, the client refuses to accept and act upon the lawyer’s advice on a significant point, a client is persistently unreasonable or uncooperative in a material respect, or the lawyer is facing difficulty in obtaining adequate instructions from the client. However, the lawyer should not use the threat of withdrawal as a device to force a hasty decision by the client on a difficult question.
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A lawyer in Alberta is also obligated to withdraw when the client is giving instructions to act in contravention of the Code:
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Obligatory Withdrawal
2.07 (5) A lawyer must withdraw if:
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(b) a client persists in instructing the lawyer to act contrary to professional ethics...
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My guess is the lawyer is relying on a similar provision or provisions in NY's code. Neither rule provides any insight whatsoever on whether or not the lawyer's client was raped.
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09-25-2015, 08:16 AM
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#1330
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Originally Posted by Zach
So the accuser's identity is now out there. Classic.
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Not ready to cross this bridge just yet, but it's looking more and more like Patrick Kane, despite the a-hole he seems to be, is the real victim here.
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09-25-2015, 08:19 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Chicago radio host Julie DiCaro can't go to work today because she received a credible threat from someone upset with her reporting of the Kane investigation.
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09-25-2015, 08:29 AM
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#1332
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
I love that CSI:CP is all over this case.
Can someone PM me when it's over?
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You know, you actually have to click a whole series of links to get in here, if you dont want any part of it then all you have to do is not click those links.
You determine your own level of involvement.
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09-25-2015, 08:44 AM
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#1333
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I won't be shocked if she's lied. I will be surprised if it was a money grab. We can dismiss mental disorder, but that's often the case with proven false accusations.
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09-25-2015, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Chicago radio host Julie DiCaro can't go to work today because she received a credible threat from someone upset with her reporting of the Kane investigation.
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People are awful
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09-25-2015, 09:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Chicago radio host Julie DiCaro can't go to work today because she received a credible threat from someone upset with her reporting of the Kane investigation.
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Makes you wonder how other people related to this case, who aren't trained in how to deal with threats, might handle such a threat.
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09-25-2015, 09:25 AM
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FROM THE PRESS CONFERENCE WITH DA THIS MORNING
Julie DiCaro @JulieDiCaro 7m7 minutes ago
Sedita: Accuser's mother engaged in elaborate hoax. Sins of mother not visited on daughter, unless find daughter was involved. Not there yet
Stacy St. Clair @StacyStClair 11m11 minutes ago
Prosecutor Frank Sedita says it's unlikely that charges will be brought against the mother of Patrick Kane's accuser for false story
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09-25-2015, 09:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
FROM THE PRESS CONFERENCE WITH DA THIS MORNING
Julie DiCaro @JulieDiCaro 7m7 minutes ago
Sedita: Accuser's mother engaged in elaborate hoax. Sins of mother not visited on daughter, unless find daughter was involved. Not there yet
Stacy St. Clair @StacyStClair 11m11 minutes ago
Prosecutor Frank Sedita says it's unlikely that charges will be brought against the mother of Patrick Kane's accuser for false story
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What an astonishingly stupid thing to do.
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09-25-2015, 09:30 AM
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#1338
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Julie DiCaro @JulieDiCaro 2m2 minutes ago
The question in my mind is not WHEN this case will go to grand jury. The question is IF the case will go to a grand jury. -- Sedita
Julie DiCaro @JulieDiCaro 2m2 minutes ago
Sedita: This office is not responsible for this . . . circus.
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09-25-2015, 09:32 AM
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#1339
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So...the mother tampered with evidence, the accuser's friend has withdrawn her testimony and the accuser's lawyer has quit.
I like that all of a sudden the media has switched to the term 'accuser' in lieu of 'victim.'
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09-25-2015, 09:36 AM
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^ un named source says the friend was always reluctant to testify, because she was underage.
Also un named source says the accuser's text history states she wanted to leave well before the alleged incident occurred, but the friend would not go.
Regardless what did and did not happen, and all the enemies she has made through the accusation, with friends and family like this she certainly didn't need any new enemies.
I think it may be over
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