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Old 09-11-2015, 02:38 PM   #141
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I don't see anyone making McDavid's life more miserable than Sam Bennett. I predict they fight more than once.
I think McDavid learned his lesson about fighting when he broke his hand in junior. Plus I believe Bennett and McDavid are friends off the ice.
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:01 PM   #142
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I think McDavid learned his lesson about fighting when he broke his hand in junior. Plus I believe Bennett and McDavid are friends off the ice.
Yup bff. Which will make the BoA even more intense. I know McDavid is projected to be the better player, but you'd better believe that going up against McDavid will bring out the best in our Sam Bennett. It will be pretty neat to compare their careers as time goes on ala Crosby vs OV
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:24 PM   #143
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Yup bff. Which will make the BoA even more intense. I know McDavid is projected to be the better player, but you'd better believe that going up against McDavid will bring out the best in our Sam Bennett. It will be pretty neat to compare their careers as time goes on ala Crosby vs OV
I like Sam as much as the next guy. I think he'll have a successful career.

But the Crosby & Ovi comparison will always be McDavid & Eichel for the next 10 years.
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Honestly I'd be happy to ever get a 20 goal / 15 assist season out of Ferland. A guy like Lucic is a pipe dream as Ferland lacks the reach that makes Lucic so effective.
What about Ryane Clowe 2.0?

6th round pick, didn't become a full time NHL'er till age 24 and was a 50pt - 80pim player until injurys got him. His best year was 62pts and 100pim.
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:52 PM   #145
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What about Ryane Clowe 2.0?

6th round pick, didn't become a full time NHL'er till age 24 and was a 50pt - 80pim player until injurys got him. His best year was 62pts and 100pim.
I'll take that. Clowe was an absolute beast in his first few years. His time with SJ, he drove many teams nuts.

If Ferland can mimic that type of a career, that's a win in my books.
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Old 09-11-2015, 04:20 PM   #146
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I'll take that. Clowe was an absolute beast in his first few years. His time with SJ, he drove many teams nuts.

If Ferland can mimic that type of a career, that's a win in my books.
Hopefully without the concussions, but yea, Ferland turning into a player like Clowe in his prime would be awesome.
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Old 09-11-2015, 04:23 PM   #147
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Plus I believe Bennett and McDavid are friends off the ice.
Yep.

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They were minor hockey teammates for seven years — five with the York-Simcoe Express and then two with the Toronto Marlboros. They also won gold for Canada at the world under-18 men’s hockey championship in 2013.

They work with different trainers in the off-season, but spent time together socially over the summer. Their parent’s homes are a 10-minute drive from each other in Newmarket, Ont. ...

“Oh yeah, a little bit of friendly trash talking for sure,” Bennett said. “I’ve told him to keep his head up a couple of times. We’re still really good buddies off the ice.
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Ferland played with Mark Stone, so his stats were pretty inflated that year. Look at the year after when he was sent back to Junior and his stats fell back down to earth.

Also Lucic at 22 (Ferland's age last season) was already a 30 goal scorer. That would be the most optimistic projection possible, and we don't even have offensive players of the level of Krejci and Horton for him to feed off.

Honestly I'd be happy to ever get a 20 goal / 15 assist season out of Ferland. A guy like Lucic is a pipe dream as Ferland lacks the reach that makes Lucic so effective.
His stats fell back down to earth because at the time he was completely out of shape, unmotivated, and struggling with substance abuse issues. That was during the peak of his struggles so I don't think it's a fair way to assess his offensive upside based on what he was going through.

Ferland has shown the ability to flat out dominate the AHL level for stretches of time, but has lacked consistency to date. During a 24 game stretch in which lasted from the end of 2013-2014 season and into the first month of this past season before his first recall Ferland put up 10 goals, 18 assists, 28 points, 60 shots on net, a +6 rating and 33 PIMS

If he can find that consistency within his game then there really is no limiting his potential impact. We also have to remember that despite being 23, he still has less than 100 games played as a pro and inconsistencies are to be expected.

You are absolutely correct though that we shouldn't expect a Lucic like impact, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities either. I would also agree that if Ferland becomes a 20 goal, 35 point physical presence that is a massive win for the Flames.

He's an intriguing asset that much is for sure.
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Old 09-11-2015, 04:59 PM   #149
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From what i've seen, there's a difference between Ferland and Lucic's skillset.

Everything about Lucic is about power. He overpowers goalies with his shot. His game is very north south, just powers his way through defenders, powers his way to the net.

Ferland has that element too, but is not as effective as Lucic due to smaller size; however, I see Ferland as having greater finesse and creativity with the puck and also greater hockey sense. In that Vancouver series, we saw a number of slick give and go plays with linemates to set up scoring chances which shows his hockey sense and creativity.

I'm not saying Lucic is better or that Ferland has more skill. I'm just saying the skillsets are a bit different. They both can physically dominate, but the way they score goals and points are different, from my viewpoint anyways.

Obviously, we'll be ecstatic if Ferland can produce like Lucic.
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Lucic is tough as nails but lacks something Ferland has...complete domination in fights with knockout power. we should have a poll of who gets to taste his right hand first.



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So obvious question at this point... what do you know about fighting, why are you the expert and what is your experience?

Seem awfully dismissive of anyone else on the matter.
This was a good question. It deserves an answer.
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5 years karate training in my youth, 3 years boxing training with military officers (I'm not in the military but I trained with them at university), 2 years mua Thai recently. I don't get in fights for fun just find the art and training of it pleasing.

The dismissive prickishness definitely comes from my job that over works and underpays me and is gnerally ruining my life so take my posts with a giant imo, not trying to be a dick. Of course Ferland could win in the fight but I would bet money on Lucic, maybe we will find out this year and you can all gloat how wrong I was
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Old 09-13-2015, 11:05 AM   #153
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To me Ferland takes too many punches waiting to land his round house right. He's going to need to adjust.
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Old 09-13-2015, 05:24 PM   #154
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This is a great contract. No risk for the the Flames is Ferland fades off, and will look fantastic if Ferland established himself above the fourth line.

It's easy to root for the guy given his backstory.
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Old 09-13-2015, 06:47 PM   #155
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we should have a poll of who gets to taste his right hand first.
Hopefully the answer is Bieksa. That guy is in serious need of a beat down.
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5 years karate training in my youth, 3 years boxing training with military officers (I'm not in the military but I trained with them at university), 2 years mua Thai recently. I don't get in fights for fun just find the art and training of it pleasing.

The dismissive prickishness definitely comes from my job that over works and underpays me and is gnerally ruining my life so take my posts with a giant imo, not trying to be a dick. Of course Ferland could win in the fight but I would bet money on Lucic, maybe we will find out this year and you can all gloat how wrong I was
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OK let's just put our tape measures and wieners away and get back to the topic at hand.
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OK let's just put our tape measures and wieners away and get back to the topic at hand.
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