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View Poll Results: What are your thoughts on the Flames CalgaryNext presentation? (select multiple)
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Get digging, I love it all!
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259 |
37.27% |
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Too much tax money
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125 |
17.99% |
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Too much ticket tax
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54 |
7.77% |
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Need more parking
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130 |
18.71% |
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I need more details, can't say at this time
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28.78% |
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The city owns it? Great deal for Calgary
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110 |
15.83% |
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Need to clean up this area anyway, its embarassing
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179 |
25.76% |
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Needs a retractable roof
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89 |
12.81% |
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Great idea but don't think it will fly with stake holders
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69 |
9.93% |
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Why did it take 2 years to come up with this?
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161 |
23.17% |
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Curious to see the city's response
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194 |
27.91% |
08-18-2015, 12:48 PM
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#921
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Fire
Can someone tell me the seating numbers? It's hard to read form the pictures.
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I don't think that is part of this - the numbers I am seeing are just size in square footage.
In the past, the Flames have said they prefer a smaller seating capacity than present. The trend in the NHL has been towards around 18,000 as a sweet spot. It certainly will not seat more than the Dome.
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08-18-2015, 12:49 PM
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#922
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
Well, there we have it.
No way this is going to happen.
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Come now.
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08-18-2015, 12:51 PM
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#923
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleF
I hope if this is subject to the 1% public art thing, that we get local individuals (let's say students from SAIT, MRU and U of C) to design the darn things rather than contract them out.
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Yeah let's get college kids to design public art for a 1 billion dollar facility instead of contracting world-renowned and more qualified artists.
Small town thinking like this drives me crazy
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08-18-2015, 12:51 PM
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#924
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I dont know if thats feasible.
Thats asking for a fair bit of civic cash.
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The optics are just terrible.
It's laughable.
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08-18-2015, 12:51 PM
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#925
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
I don't think that is part of this - the numbers I am seeing are just size in square footage.
In the past, the Flames have said they prefer a smaller seating capacity than present. The trend in the NHL has been towards around 18,000 as a sweet spot. It certainly will not seat more than the Dome.
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King said in a previous STH meeting that it will hold 19k
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08-18-2015, 12:51 PM
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#926
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Come now.
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Hes being a bit melodramatic but his point isnt invalid.
The Flames are putting up $200M of a $1B project.
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08-18-2015, 12:51 PM
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#927
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That's the cost of one interchange and it would actually benefit most calgarians.
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08-18-2015, 12:51 PM
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#928
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Don Braid @DonBraid
The total - $890 million - nowhere near cost. Doesn’t include West Village, infrastructure, creosote cleanup #calgarynext #chlive #yyccc
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08-18-2015, 12:51 PM
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#929
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Violating Copyrights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I dont know if thats feasible.
Thats asking for a fair bit of civic cash.
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It's not asking for anything more then what the city already had planned. The $200mm was to go to a fieldhouse anyways.
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08-18-2015, 12:51 PM
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#930
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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So basically almost $700 million in public money? Yeah that's gonna be a ridiculously tough sell. I was expecting an ask of about half that....and thought that would be a tough sell.
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08-18-2015, 12:51 PM
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#931
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Calgary
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Yeah no thanks.
Looks great but 440M in public funds, then having the city be on the hook for a 250M loan that they have to collect ticket taxes for.
And this doesn't count the remediation.
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08-18-2015, 12:51 PM
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#932
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CGY
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$1.2B is not the proposed budget for #CalgaryNEXT. Full info is coming at the 2:30 session including this clarification.
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08-18-2015, 12:52 PM
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#933
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Boxed-in
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McMahon re-development rendering is a little lazy...just a copy-and-paste of current UofC buildings 
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08-18-2015, 12:52 PM
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#934
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Neither here nor there
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I dont know if thats feasible.
Thats asking for a fair bit of civic cash.
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To be fair, the city was gonna pony up a bunch of that cash for a fieldhouse anyway.
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08-18-2015, 12:52 PM
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#935
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
The optics are just terrible.
It's laughable.
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They tried mitigating it by glossing it over with some fancy 'repurposing plans' for the 'Dome and McMahon, but yeah, as I previously stated, they're not fronting enough cash.
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08-18-2015, 12:53 PM
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#936
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Interesting thing to note: a big ass traffic circle proposed at the south end of the 14th street bridge.
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08-18-2015, 12:53 PM
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#937
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Looooooooooooooch
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Flames should foot atleast %50 imo.
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08-18-2015, 12:53 PM
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#938
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Franchise Player
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How much rent does the city get to collect from the Flames and Stamps? Who keeps the revenue from the concerts?
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08-18-2015, 12:53 PM
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#939
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleF
I hope if this is subject to the 1% public art thing, that we get local individuals (let's say students from SAIT, MRU and U of C) to design the darn things rather than contract them out.
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Gross. Juvenile small thinking.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Hes being a bit melodramatic but his point isnt invalid.
The Flames are putting up $200M of a $1B project.
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The melodrama is what I was talking about. Valid points cry baby post.
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08-18-2015, 12:53 PM
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#940
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barnes
It's not asking for anything more then what the city already had planned. The $200mm was to go to a fieldhouse anyways.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muffins
To be fair, the city was gonna pony up a bunch of that cash for a fieldhouse anyway.
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I was not aware of that. That could help with the $200M coming directly from the City but even still...
This is a lot more than I was expecting.
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This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
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If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
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