08-10-2015, 10:38 AM
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#61
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
To some degree, dealing with idiots in public is part of the job of a live reporter. The problem is that women are targeted for this stuff more often than men, and it seems to be increasing in frequency. The poetic justice would be to find out where these idiots work, and then interrupt and publicly embarrass them in front of customers or their boss.
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Yeah except the reporters are out in public and you cant expect a degree of control when you're out in public.
I mean, they went to a Vancouver music festival, you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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08-10-2015, 10:40 AM
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#62
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Originally Posted by Locke
Yeah except the reporters are out in public and you cant expect a degree of control when you're out in public.
I mean, they went to a Vancouver music festival, you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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Except you should be able to expect people to conduct themselves with a great degree of self-control in public than in private.
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08-10-2015, 10:42 AM
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#63
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Is it? The best I can get to is "maybe, but I doubt he'd ever be charged". I'd be interested to hear from someone who knows better but on the other hand I've already spent way more energy on this incident than I feel it deserves, so continue your ragegasm, sir.
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I'm not raging, you just don't know what you're talking about. Here's an update from someone who probably knows more than us...
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According to Pamela Cross, a lawyer who works with women’s anti-violence organizations across Ontario, the televised incident in B.C. does provide the starting point for a sexual assault charge. “It is, from a legal point of view, the basis for sexual assault. Clearly she did not consent, and it’s contact of a sexual nature,” Cross said.
Sexual assault as defined by the Criminal Code is vague, she noted, and largely determined by case law
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http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2...n-the-air.html
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08-10-2015, 10:45 AM
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#64
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by SHOGUN
A kiss on the cheek is sexual assault? Wow I feel bad for her and everyone who thinks so.
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of course. Sexual assault covers everything from assault, attacks and/or touching.
I'd have to read it again but I think in Canada there are 4 or 5 different levels of Sexual Assault. Pretty sure kissing and fondling are in the same category.
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08-10-2015, 11:00 AM
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#65
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According to Pamela Cross, a lawyer who works with women’s anti-violence organizations across Ontario, the televised incident in B.C. does provide the starting point for a sexual assault charge. “It is, from a legal point of view, the basis for sexual assault. Clearly she did not consent, and it’s contact of a sexual nature,” Cross said.
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I'm sorry but a quick kiss on the cheek does not constitute contact of a sexual nature, or do i need to turn myself in for giving my neice a peck on the cheek at her first birthday party yesterday?
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08-10-2015, 11:00 AM
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#66
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When are people going to learn? When you are out in public, do not touch strangers, do not speak to strangers, do not look at strangers. mind your business.
This doods an idiot. hope his house is pillaged, his job is lost and his white privilege card revoked.
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08-10-2015, 11:02 AM
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#67
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Originally Posted by Dan02
I'm sorry but a quick kiss on the cheek does not constitute contact of a sexual nature, or do i need to turn myself in for giving my neice a peck on the cheek at her first birthday party yesterday?
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Congrats you may have just won the worst post in this thread.
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08-10-2015, 11:02 AM
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#68
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Doing romantic or sexual things to other people without their consent is not cool. I really hope that the identity of the offender is inconclusive and this turns into an opportunity for real discussion on this topic rather than a witchhunt where a man is destroyed over a drunken indiscretion. Yes, he was wrong but completely fu$#!ng him over for a kiss he didn't even land seems to be the overkill that would be exercised by the collective internet shaming mob.
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08-10-2015, 11:04 AM
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#69
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan02
I'm sorry but a quick kiss on the cheek does not constitute contact of a sexual nature, or do i need to turn myself in for giving my neice a peck on the cheek at her first birthday party yesterday?
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Your niece wasn't broadcasting live on TV. It's not okay to walk up to strangers and kiss them on the cheek without consent, period. Let alone when they're doing their job. It clearly threw her off. It may seem harmless, but being on the receiving end of this during a live telecast would be embarrassing & unnerving.
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08-10-2015, 11:06 AM
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#70
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Congrats you may have just won the worst post in this thread.
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Feel free to elaborate why.
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08-10-2015, 11:06 AM
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#71
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by Nyah
Your niece wasn't broadcasting live on TV. It's not okay to walk up to strangers and kiss them on the cheek without consent, period. Let alone when they're doing their job. It clearly threw her off. It may seem harmless, but being on the receiving end of this during a live telecast would be embarrassing & unnerving.
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Of course it's not okay. But that doesn't mean a kiss on the cheek is sexual.
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08-10-2015, 11:08 AM
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#72
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Originally Posted by Sliver
Of course it's not okay. But that doesn't mean a kiss on the cheek is sexual.
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This, of course it's not appropriate, but the full extent of this should be the dude should call up the reporter and apologize, end stop.
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08-10-2015, 11:08 AM
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#73
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Originally Posted by Sliver
Of course it's not okay. But that doesn't mean a kiss on the cheek is sexual.
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Really? So if some adult stranger walked up to you and kissed you on the cheek without warning or invitation how would you see it?
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08-10-2015, 11:09 AM
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#74
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What nonsense this is. Some of you who are upset by this really shouldn't go to southern Europe!
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08-10-2015, 11:09 AM
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#75
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Originally Posted by Dan02
Feel free to elaborate why.
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Because you have equated giving are child that you know and who's parents you now a kiss, in a situation which would not be unusually for her to be kissed.
If you can't see the short comings between that and randomly kissing a stranger in public, when it is unwanted.....
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08-10-2015, 11:11 AM
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#76
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Zarley
What nonsense this is. Some of you who are upset by this really shouldn't go to southern Europe!
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Canada isn't southern Europe, so that argument is irrelevant.
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08-10-2015, 11:11 AM
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#77
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Originally Posted by Nyah
Really? So if some adult stranger walked up to you and kissed you on the cheek without warning or invitation how would you see it?
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It would probably make my day a bit brighter.
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08-10-2015, 11:14 AM
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#78
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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It goes both ways. I can't just go up to one of you guys on the train and kiss you on the cheek either.
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08-10-2015, 11:14 AM
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#79
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by Nyah
Really? So if some adult stranger walked up to you and kissed you on the cheek without warning or invitation how would you see it?
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I wouldn't like it, but I wouldn't consider it sexual. I'd think it was weird/inappropriate/whatever. My mom kisses me on the cheek. I kiss her on the cheek. Same with my grandma, nieces, aunts, daughter, etc. There is nothing sexual about a kiss on the cheek.
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08-10-2015, 11:16 AM
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#80
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Because you have equated giving are child that you know and who's parents you now a kiss, in a situation which would not be unusually for her to be kissed.
If you can't see the short comings between that and randomly kissing a stranger in public, when it is unwanted.....
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You're misinterpreting what I'm saying, I'm not saying that it was appropriate for this guy to do under the circumstances. But what I am saying is no, not every kiss is a sexual act. In both cases there was zero sexual intent in the kiss.
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