Calgary West riding - What is going on?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Shazam

What are the other reasons?

Ad-scam, Chretian years..etc, etc...

Much of the same reasons why the Conservatives got elected federally last year.

[Footscray]

Originally Posted by Shazam

What are the other reasons?

Money Money Money Muuney

MUUUUUUUNNAAAAAYYY

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Azure

Ad-scam, Chretian years..etc, etc...

Much of the same reasons why the Conservatives got elected federally last year.

None of those things even compare to the NEP. The NEP destroyed Calgary. Absolutely destroyed it. See this growth in Calgary you see now? Rewind 25 years ago. That's how it was like back then. Then imagine the Liberals coming in and stopping it cold. Hell, there were buildings in construction that just... stopped. Some of those shells were still shells until the late 90s.

Just how old... are you?

[shane_c]

Originally Posted by Shazam

The Conservatives could run a rabbit with a pancake on its head and still win in Calgary.

At least it would be better than Rob Anders.

Didn't someone post a pic of that rabbit here. I searched but couldn't find it.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by shane_c

Didn't someone post a pic of that rabbit here. I searched but couldn't find it.

Rabbits with pancakes

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by shane_c

Didn't someone post a pic of that rabbit here. I searched but couldn't find it.

Here's the story and the pic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oolong_the_Rabbit

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Here's the story and the pic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oolong_the_Rabbit

I never knew the history of that - thanks.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Shazam

None of those things even compare to the NEP. The NEP destroyed Calgary. Absolutely destroyed it. See this growth in Calgary you see now? Rewind 25 years ago. That's how it was like back then. Then imagine the Liberals coming in and stopping it cold. Hell, there were buildings in construction that just... stopped. Some of those shells were still shells until the late 90s.

Just how old... are you?

Yup. I was very young at the time but if you talk to anyone that was around at that time and they will tell stories of hard working folks having to walk away from their homes and what not. The bitterness from all of that runs VERY deep among many Albertans.

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Yup. I was very young at the time but if you talk to anyone that was around at that time and they will tell stories of hard working folks having to walk away from their homes and what not. The bitterness from all of that runs VERY deep among many Albertans.

That combined with the perception that the provincial money transfers skew HEAVILY away from Alberta by giving "our" money to the poor provinces, and you've got a place that's insanely anti-Liberal.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Shazam

None of those things even compare to the NEP. The NEP destroyed Calgary. Absolutely destroyed it. See this growth in Calgary you see now? Rewind 25 years ago. That's how it was like back then. Then imagine the Liberals coming in and stopping it cold. Hell, there were buildings in construction that just... stopped. Some of those shells were still shells until the late 90s.

Just how old... are you?

I know all that. But like the bolded part says, 'just how old am I.' Well not everyone in Calgary is old enough to remember the NEP, meaning there 'must' be other issues that still keeps Calgary a dominate conservative base.

That being said, I had a social teacher that hated the Liberals because of the NEP, and never forgot to tell us every single day what they did. So I guess in a certain way, even though I wasn't alive when the NEP happened, I am anti-Liberal in some ways because of it.

More anti-Trudeau though.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Azure

I know all that. But like the bolded part says, 'just how old am I.' Well not everyone in Calgary is old enough to remember the NEP, meaning there 'must' be other issues that still keeps Calgary a dominate conservative base.

That's parents keeping their kids scared with tales of the Liberal boogeyman.

But those things you mentioned have very little to do with Liberals never gaining power here. It's all about the NEP. Calgary was painted blue long before Chretien was elected.

[Vulcan]

Calgary has been traditionally conservative for years before the NEP. This may have had something to do with Trudeau's attitude to Alberta since he wouldn't lose any seats anyways. Those were extremely tough times for me and nobody complained about rush hour traffic because there wasn't any.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Azure

I know all that. But like the bolded part says, 'just how old am I.' Well not everyone in Calgary is old enough to remember the NEP, meaning there 'must' be other issues that still keeps Calgary a dominate conservative base.

That being said, I had a social teacher that hated the Liberals because of the NEP, and never forgot to tell us every single day what they did. So I guess in a certain way, even though I wasn't alive when the NEP happened, I am anti-Liberal in some ways because of it.

More anti-Trudeau though.

I don't want to veer away from the discussion of Rob Anders, but isn't it a bit puzzling to be anti-liberal in 2006 because of a failed policy program from 30 years ago? Nobody thinks it was a good idea now--and the Liberals are no more the party of the NEP in 2006 than the Conservatives are the party of the GST. It would be like not voting NDP because I never trusted that Tommy Douglas guy.

I actually was a casual acquaintance/friend of Rob's when I was at the U of C. Fun guy--but my impression was always that he was a slight lunatic, and not particularly well suited for higher office. My opinion hasn't changed.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

I don't want to veer away from the discussion of Rob Anders, but isn't it a bit puzzling to be anti-liberal in 2006 because of a failed policy program from 30 years ago? Nobody thinks it was a good idea now--and the Liberals are no more the party of the NEP in 2006 than the Conservatives are the party of the GST. It would be like not voting NDP because I never trusted that Tommy Douglas guy.

Well the NEP was a huge kick to the balls of many Albertans. The GST didn't make people lose their jobs and houses.

I always thought the Liberals always had at least a chance to win more than one seat in Alberta before the NEP. Now they don't have any chance at all (except for those crazy Edmontonians )

[Clarkey]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

I don't want to veer away from the discussion of Rob Anders, but isn't it a bit puzzling to be anti-liberal in 2006 because of a failed policy program from 30 years ago? Nobody thinks it was a good idea now--and the Liberals are no more the party of the NEP in 2006 than the Conservatives are the party of the GST. It would be like not voting NDP because I never trusted that Tommy Douglas guy.

I actually was a casual acquaintance/friend of Rob's when I was at the U of C. Fun guy--but my impression was always that he was a slight lunatic, and not particularly well suited for higher office. My opinion hasn't changed.

Did Rob Ander's ever have any female acquaintences?

[FireInTheHole]

I couldn't vote for Anders in the last election - so I just didn't vote. I can't stand that guy, and if he is up for re-election, then as much as I hate the Liberals, they will get my protest vote.

[Shazam]

I wish there was a "none of the above" option on ballots. Why, there'd be two or three people in Parliament then!

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Hell, there were buildings in construction that just... stopped. Some of those shells were still shells until the late 90s.

Just how old... are you?

Holy hyberbole. Care to provide a single example?

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

Holy hyberbole. Care to provide a single example?

I remember there was one ugly one downtown. I believe it was the SW corner, at 5th Ave and 9th ST SW. Lots of people had to drive past it every day for years and cringe.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Clarkey

Did Rob Ander's ever have any female acquaintences?

Not that I remember. What are you implying?