[Signing] Kesler signs extension with Ducks

[PsYcNeT]

Always a good chance to roll these out.

[DoubleF]

IMO, the future Pacific playoff window suddenly looks a lot closer and wider for the Flames.

[Sylvanfan]

Well Anaheim is a team that maybe can have that we need to win in the next 3 years or it's all for not anyway type of attitude.

Personally I wish ill on Kesler, I hope he breaks down sooner than later, and that in 3 years Mike Richards is nothing compared to the gong show scandal that Kesler has become. Him and Bieksa hopefully both end up getting bought out so they can run the Bluth family banana stand in 2018.

[spuzzum]

Is it better to sign Kesler for 2 years at 8 or 9 million per? He won't sign a two year deal at 6.8M/season. Is it better to sign at 6 years with a lower cap hit?

This is the dilemma GMs face. Perry, Getzlaf, and Kesler will all be 36 or 37 making huge dollars. Will they still produce at that age similar to Iginla? It's essentially rolling the dice. These players won't sign 1 or 2 year deals unless it's for huge dollars year to year.

Which model works better? If the players won't sign new short term deals with decent cap hits, the only other option is to rebuild and get what you can for them.

It's concerning given I am that age that 32 to 37 is essentially considered a death certificate now these days.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

That's a problem for 5 years down the road.

None of those players are the superstar to lead you to a cup.

It is foolish to plan 5 years in the future in sports. 3 years at a time. Anaheim with Kesler is a better team for the next 5 years, just as Flames would be with Giodano.

And yet it's a six year contract that doesn't even begin this year.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He's a very good 2nd pairing center and all around player and it's market value but given the way he plays and his injury history I feel he's going to have a major drop off when he's at his mid-30's. That said teams are simply willing to live with the long term consequences as maybe they know something we don't in that there will be another round of compliance buyouts when the CBA gets revisited.

He had the bad year with breaking his foot off a slapshot after coming back from hip surgery

look at his games played though, outside the one year with 17 his lowest GP is 77 in the last 8 seasons

he's not injury prone

I think it's a crazy deal, I dont think hes worth that money this year let alone 32 next year, but his injury history is overblown

[Jacks]

Just when I thought Murray had done an annoyingly great job of building that team he goes and does something like this .......... and totally redeems himself!

[Galakanokis]

Not necessarily injury prone but he always seems to be playing through something. Just because you are playing doesn't mean you are at 100%.


Not a Kesler fan at all but he is a quality 2nd line center in the NHL and he will help your team win in a lot of different ways. But with that said I still think this will be a brutal contract in three years (year two of the deal). Kesler seems like a prime guy to fall off a cliff at 33/34 years of age.

[Hackey]

Probably a bit longer than you'd like but Kesler is a huge part of that team. He helps give them a second scoring threat and can play in all situations. Definitely a guy you want in the playoffs. Ducks are in win now mode and you have to keep a guy like this. If Gio get's a 6 year deal I'll be quite pleased and and he's a year older. Obviously you prefer something like 4 years but chances are these guys are not going to take that. 5-6 seems pretty fair to both sides.

[JohnnySkittles]

Kesler is an elite #2 shutdown center, dollars are fine. It's the term that is awful. Should be a max of 4, with preferably being 2 or 3.

[bax]

Originally Posted by spuzzum

Is it better to sign Kesler for 2 years at 8 or 9 million per? He won't sign a two year deal at 6.8M/season. Is it better to sign at 6 years with a lower cap hit?



This is the dilemma GMs face. Perry, Getzlaf, and Kesler will all be 36 or 37 making huge dollars. Will they still produce at that age similar to Iginla? It's essentially rolling the dice. These players won't sign 1 or 2 year deals unless it's for huge dollars year to year.



Which model works better? If the players won't sign new short term deals with decent cap hits, the only other option is to rebuild and get what you can for them.



It's concerning given I am that age that 32 to 37 is essentially considered a death certificate now these days.

Veteran players will not sign contracts like you mentioned. It's very simple. Would you prefer a guaranteed 10 million or a guaranteed 40 million?

[sharkov]

Signings like these make me cringe at what Sean Monahan's gonna ask for. Hes only a 20 goal scorer and getting nearly $7 million

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by JohnnySkittles

Kesler is an elite #2 shutdown center, dollars are fine. It's the term that is awful. Should be a max of 4, with preferably being 2 or 3.

Not anymore.

[dying4acup]

Perry. Kessler. Bieksa. All on the same team. I might hate that team more than the canucks. Especially when the canucks reach oiler levels of irrelevant this season.

[sharkov]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

Perry. Kessler. Bieksa. All on the same team. I might hate that team more than the canucks. Especially when the canucks reach oiler levels of irrelevant this season.

All they need is Matt Cooke and burrows then they reach the pinnacle of d-bagness

[ricardodw]

Last year Gio was better than Kesler.... by quite a large margin. does 7x6 establish the home-town, retire as a Flame discount for Gio?

Both players play hard and have been banged up a fair bit...

Kesler was a -5 on the Ducks.... Beauchimin a +17 Belesky a +13

[heep223]

Originally Posted by sharkov

Signings like these make me cringe at what Sean Monahan's gonna ask for. Hes only a 20 goal scorer and getting nearly $7 million

He's an RFA, it's different. I think Monahan and Johnny will both skip the bridge deal and sign long term $6.5M AAV. Assuming they both have good seasons again.

[dash_pinched]

Perry, Getzlaf, and Kesler (once Kesler's extension kicks in) will consume 37% of the Ducks cap space.

[CroFlames]

For the immediate future, the Ducks have a happy Kesler. And a happy, early 30's Kesler is an effective player.

Once he's late 30's the Ducks will be struggling to ice an NHL team outside of Perry, Getzlaf and Kesler. And there is no knowing for sure if Kesler will be serviceable when he's 36.

If I recall, the Ducks don't traditionally spend to the cap, right?

[Fire of the Phoenix]

How much longer can Kesler even maintain his current level of play? He hasn't scored 50 points in years and he's not the same imposing force he was during his heyday. Players of his ilk tend to fall apart in their mid 30s and he's already taken a significant step back IMO. Bad deal that will likely cost them a young player on the rise within the next 2-3 years.