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Old 07-01-2015, 07:21 PM   #141
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The starting point for franchise centres is now 10.5 million. He's actually paid like Rick Nash.
No....10.5 is the starting point for young multiple cup winning centers.

You think the Flames are paying a dollar over 6 million for Monahan next summer?
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Old 07-01-2015, 07:21 PM   #142
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BTW, for the "Kessel is fat and showed up out-of-shape at training camp" crowd:

https://twitter.com/damospin/status/514197460215160832


Notice so few reported on this? The guy is being screwed by the media.
Kessel maay not be in as good of shape due to his cancer treatments from years ago.

That doesn't mean that he isn't a 1 dimensional forward.
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Old 07-01-2015, 07:57 PM   #143
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No....10.5 is the starting point for young multiple cup winning centers.

You think the Flames are paying a dollar over 6 million for Monahan next summer?
That depends on how many cups he has by then.
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Old 07-01-2015, 08:48 PM   #144
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You gotta think Malkin is on the move.
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Old 07-01-2015, 09:15 PM   #145
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You gotta think Malkin is on the move.

Agreed, that's a ridiculous amount of money to be spending on 4 players -- Unreal.


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Old 07-01-2015, 09:20 PM   #146
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You gotta think Malkin is on the move.
No chance.They were looking for a top-end scoring winger so one of one their centers has Hornqvist to play with and the other has Kessel.
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Old 07-01-2015, 09:42 PM   #147
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Tom is the draft pick that keeps on giving.

Where WILL he end up next?
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I'm gonna start "The Travelling Erixon's". Who's in?
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Lol malkin isn't moving anywhere
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:29 PM   #150
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You gotta think Malkin is on the move.
Not until they win another cup, if they can motivate Kessel late in the season they could be dangerous.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:43 PM   #151
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Lol malkin isn't moving anywhere

Nope, He even said that if he was traded he would go back to the KHL. So yeah no chance.
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:18 AM   #152
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This is one of those rare deals where I look at it and I don't like it for either team. The Pens need depth, not one big contract. The futures for the Leafs are just 'meh', especially considering they had to eat some of Kessel's salary (which almost everyone knew they would have to). Just...........meh.
This actually adds a lot of depth for the Penguins by significantly upgrading the top 6. They have to win and win now, Crosby and Malkin are in their prime there is no option to create a balanced forward corps of muckers. Because you can't build that other than through the draft. Pittsburg can't wait for that. And they can't sign Beleskeys and Froliks with their cap situation.

They basically now have two top flight scoring lines that are roughly equivalent to any other top line in the league. And this is a huge upgrade for Crosby.

Chris Kunitz - Sidney Crosby - Phil Kessel
David Perron - Evgeni Malkin - Patric Hornqvist

Mix and match as you would. Two of the best centres in the game, 1 elite winger and 3 good to excellent wingers. This move pushes Dupuis and Bennett out of the top six ensuring that every player is a bonafide top six forward now on power up mode centred by Crosby and Malkin.
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:23 AM   #153
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Is it just me or is the return for Kessel very underwhelming, ESPECIALLY considering they retained value.

Pit looks great on the wings now, question is still going to be goaltending as they have some depth (prospect wise) on D.
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:28 AM   #154
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Well at least those comparing Crosby situation of never getting an elite scoring winger to Iginla never getting an elite center can end. Sure his overall game isn't that great and he's a floater at times but as far as a pure offensive winger goes it doesn't get much better than Kessel. If he plays mostly with Crosby this should put Sid back into the 100 points club barring injuries.
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:33 AM   #155
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Personally, I think Kessel will look really good beside Crosby. He certainly has the offensive acumen to figure out how to get open and be ready for Crosby's passes.

But beyond that, the key for me is his speed.

Crosby is one of the fastest players in the league and creates much of his offense from his explosive acceleration. But teams simply double teamed him, and cut off his space.

If they can utilize Kessel's speed as a way to get more open ice for Crosby, look out.
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:50 AM   #156
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Kessel went from the worst situation for himself to the best. But he's going to need to motivate himself up to keep up to either Crosby or Malkin.

At $5M/season it's a good trade for Pittsburgh. Kapanen is a very inconsistent prospect and hasn't really brought an A game to big time situations like the WJCs. He might wilt in TO. Harrington is a better bet. And I'm betting the conditional first will end up not being a first.
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:56 AM   #157
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It's not 5 mill. Leafs kept 1.2 mill per year. His cap hit will 6.8 mill per for Pit.
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Kessel went from the worst situation for himself to the best. But he's going to need to motivate himself up to keep up to either Crosby or Malkin.

At $5M/season it's a good trade for Pittsburgh. Kapanen is a very inconsistent prospect and hasn't really brought an A game to big time situations like the WJCs. He might wilt in TO. Harrington is a better bet. And I'm betting the conditional first will end up not being a first.
1) it's $6.8M, not $5M

2) how will it not be a 1st? Do you think Pitt misses the playoffs each of the next 2 years?
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Old 07-02-2015, 08:01 AM   #159
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Toronto fans was ticked off that they didn't get enough for Phil Kessel. I tend to disagree since I never even thought someone will even trade for him because of his outrageous contract. I thought if he ever got traded, Toronto will have to retain big chunks of his contract and they'll also get a bad contract in return. They received a 1st round pick from last year's draft in Kaperis Kapanen, D Scott Harrington, veteran Spalling(was decent in Nashville) and some draft picks. All they did was retained 15% of contract, got rid of a prospect Biggs who doesn't seem to fit in and much travelled D Tim Erixon, whom they picked up free on waiver last season. Now the Leafs will have cap space to sign another player. So if another team is willing to do the same thing for Phaneuf, Brendan Shanahan will be laughing.
As for Kessel, i think he is lucky that he won't get picked on by Toronto media as much anymore. He won't be the go-to-guy in Pittsburgh and he'll even play with either Crosby or Malkin. That's like winning the lottery.
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It's not 5 mill. Leafs kept 1.2 mill per year. His cap hit will 6.8 mill per for Pit.
Thanks - must've heard wrong from someone. That's not as great a deal.

It's a fairly square deal all around. It's great for Kessel, no more interviews, a middling interest hockey city (not under a microscope but still a good fan base), not one but two great centres, plus a pretty deep defence.
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