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View Poll Results: How do you feel about the Hamilton trade?
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Complete Steal!
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58.76% |
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Great trade but not sure if it is a homerun.
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25.57% |
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Cautiously optimistic that Flames won the trade.
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Even trade for both teams
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Boston will eventually win this trade.
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Rather have the picks.
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06-29-2015, 09:53 AM
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#1321
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Poe969
The funny thing about the B's cap crunch is that they were put there by a GM who turned a good team into a bad team over time because of his blunder after blunder. I wonder where that GM is now....
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Well, you have a point. Trading Seguin away was a head scratcher. Most teams who retain good players to contend will find themselves in cap crunch sooner or later ex. Blackhawks, Rangers, Bruins, Blues, etc.
They say Chiarelli inherited a lot of those players when he came on board so we will wait and see...
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06-29-2015, 09:59 AM
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#1322
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
They're retaining 2.75 million of Lucic' contract, they're not saving all that much.
Chairelli really mismanaged the Bruins long term cap.
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Maybe so but most good teams (not all) will top out eventually if they want to contend. Trading away Hamilton sets the Bruins back years on the blue line...I guess their lost is you gain. GTG
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06-29-2015, 09:59 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Right behind you.
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It's easier than you realize to slip into cap hell. Treliving has to be very careful that the Flames don't put themselves in that situation in 3-4 years time - might require some tough decisions. Fortunately I think the Flames have a good institutional memory on this and Treliving was used to managing in a tough budget scenario in Arizona.
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06-29-2015, 10:00 AM
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#1324
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
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HAHAH he just usurped Polak's throne, with this monstrosity.
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Originally Posted by VERVE
Yes, because of players like Hall, Berle, Omark, MPS, RNH, Petry, Dubnyk and Peckham etc will be mentored by Smyth, Horc, Hemsky, Whitney and Khabi
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06-29-2015, 10:07 AM
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#1325
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: whereever my feet take me
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Wasn't Hamilton targeted when the Flames first attempted to trade Iginla to Boston? (Sorry if this has already been mentioned in the thread.)
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06-29-2015, 10:07 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
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Originally Posted by cam_wmh
HAHAH he just usurped Polak's throne, with this monstrosity.
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Hey now. Khabi did a brilliant job mentoring Dubnyk. Unfortunately he had to leave Edmonton to play like it.
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06-29-2015, 10:09 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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When they had the 13th, 14th and 15th picks with Barzal and Connor still on the board, I felt that the Lucic and Hamilton trades wouldn't be all that bad since those two were well within their picks.
I started laughing when DeBrusk and Senyshyn were picked 14th and 15th.
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06-29-2015, 10:12 AM
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Novi Sad, Serbia
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
When they had the 13th, 14th and 15th picks with Barzal and Connor still on the board, I felt that the Lucic and Hamilton trades wouldn't be all that bad since those two were well within their picks.
I started laughing when DeBrusk and Senyshyn were picked 14th and 15th.
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To be fair, considering their draft history, we shouldn't be laughing. They have a great scouting department.
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06-29-2015, 10:17 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
When they had the 13th, 14th and 15th picks with Barzal and Connor still on the board, I felt that the Lucic and Hamilton trades wouldn't be all that bad since those two were well within their picks.
I started laughing when DeBrusk and Senyshyn were picked 14th and 15th.
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Go read the draft thread at HFBruins. They're really thrilled to get Zboril, Connor and Barzal. But then they get to die all over again. And again. And again. It becomes tragic at one point but goes right back to being hilarious.
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06-29-2015, 10:19 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by nemanja2306
To be fair, considering their draft history, we shouldn't be laughing. They have a great scouting department.
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Surely you could have picked up DeBrusk or Senyshyn at 37th overall. Barzal falling out of the top 10 and right to 13/14/15 would have been robbery for the Bruins.
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06-29-2015, 10:22 AM
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Novi Sad, Serbia
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Surely you could have picked up DeBrusk or Senyshyn at 37th overall. Barzal falling out of the top 10 and right to 13/14/15 would have been robbery for the Bruins.
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Perhaps. Perhaps not. Not the best asset managnment, sure, but there must have been some reason why they took him there.
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06-29-2015, 10:23 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sweden
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Go read the draft thread at HFBruins. They're really thrilled to get Zboril, Connor and Barzal.
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The beginning of that thread appears to be talking a lot about drafting someone to partner with Hamilton as the top pairing in the future. 
Poor Bruins.
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06-29-2015, 10:24 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Badger Bob
Wasn't Hamilton targeted when the Flames first attempted to trade Iginla to Boston? (Sorry if this has already been mentioned in the thread.)
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Who knows, but Feaster would have been an idiot not to target him.
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06-29-2015, 10:56 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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The only doubt I have about this trade, and it's a small one, is that our current team was successful because of all the in-house prospects that played a huge role last season, and the last time the Flames tried to trade for a star defenceman it turned out abysmal. I just really don't want a repeat of the Boumeester years
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06-29-2015, 10:57 AM
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I'd like this deal to be signed so I can stop worrying about it 
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06-29-2015, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nik-
I'd like this deal to be signed so I can stop worrying about it |
That, and the new hockey season can't come soon enough!
Is Hartley going to call him Hammy? Or Dougie?
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06-29-2015, 11:04 AM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by nik-
I'd like this deal to be signed so I can stop worrying about it |
Nothing to worry about. Flames have the cap space to match if he is offer sheeted. Worst case is they have to pay him a higher cap hit but it's still in their hands. If they choose, they can collect edmontons draft picks and let them deal with cap hell as chiral links accustom too lol.
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06-29-2015, 11:25 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Fischy13
Nothing to worry about. Flames have the cap space to match if he is offer sheeted. Worst case is they have to pay him a higher cap hit but it's still in their hands. If they choose, they can collect edmontons draft picks and let them deal with cap hell as chiral links accustom too lol.
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I still think a deal will be signed tomorrow.
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06-29-2015, 11:25 AM
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#1339
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleF
That, and the new hockey season can't come soon enough!
Is Hartley going to call him Hammy? Or Dougie? |
My guess is "Hams"
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06-29-2015, 11:29 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fischy13
Nothing to worry about. Flames have the cap space to match if he is offer sheeted. Worst case is they have to pay him a higher cap hit but it's still in their hands. If they choose, they can collect edmontons draft picks and let them deal with cap hell as chiral links accustom too lol.
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If Edmonton goes full ######, you take their draft picks, then offer sheet connor mcdavid in a few years.
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