US Supreme Court rules same-sex marriage legal in all 50 states

[Thor]

Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate

I suspect that I know what Obama is trying to say, but...

So when will the pedophiles, polygamists, and those who want to marry their siblings get the right to marry who they love?

You forgot dogs and pets!

[Igottago]

Wow...this and confederate flags being taken down pretty much within a week. Great work USA! I'm impressed common sense is starting to prevail down there.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Wow...this and confederate flags being taken down pretty much within a week. Great work USA! I'm impressed common sense is starting to prevail down there.

Thankfully they can still fire their rifles and pistols in the air to celebrate.

[tripin_billie]

Originally Posted by Thor

Am I reading this wrong on him referring to "My Ruler" ?

Yes, he's referring to the Supreme Court, in his opinion, now being the ruler of the land. Not that he had any problem with that in the Citizens United decision.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate

I suspect that I know what Obama is trying to say, but...

So when will the pedophiles, polygamists, and those who want to marry their siblings get the right to marry who they love?

One of these things is not like the other!

One of these things, is not the same!

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Thor

Am I reading this wrong on him referring to "My Ruler" ?

Originally Posted by tripin_billie

Yes, he's referring to the Supreme Court, in his opinion, now being the ruler of the land. Not that he had any problem with that in the Citizens United decision.

Yeah, you're misreading him - his dissent is about this issue being solved through the democratic process. In other words, the people should rule themselves rather than having their power to decide taken away from them by the Court. Has nothing to do with God.

I take his point, but on matters of fundamental human rights, you just can't put that sort of thing to a vote.

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

Oh look, all you have to do is vote Huckabee and the fight is back on...
As president I will stand in the gap and join with all faith leaders to rebuild and restore the foundation of America — life, marriage and religious liberty.
For some, this is akin to taking away their guns. Or closing Wal Marts in Texas.

Are you under the impression that he'd be able to do anything about it as President? A President cannot somehow cancel a Supreme Court judgment.

The best he could do would be to nominate a super-conservative judge for SC associate justice (which would mean one of the nine died with him in office), then see that person confirmed by the legislative branch (over which he has no direct control). So he'd be expecting legislators to confirm a nominee in spite of over 60% of public opinion militating against that decision (as of today - the trend suggests that it'll keep going up). Thereby committing likely political suicide, in the vast majority of cases.

Then, someone would have to bring a case that would allow for this ruling to be overturned - which will be difficult given that there will be no gay marriage bans to challenge, but I suppose Alabama could pass such a bill solely for the purpose of having a legal fight about it.

Then, he'd have to convince four other judges to join him in overturning this decision. Which will be more or less difficult depending on who is on the bench. Remember that although there are four dissenters here, judges often dissent not because they wish the RESULT had been different, but as an opportunity to warn lower court judges relying on the judgment of what its limits should be.

Good f'n luck, guy.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at this one

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Why are you subjecting us to irrelevant tweets from the leader of a designated hate group?

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Huckabee is really losing his ####

Ahhh yes. I remember that episode of Cosmos where Newton discovered the Marriage Force. He watched that apple fall to the ground and went "Hmm, I wonder what makes the apple fall." And then Hobbes dick-slapped him across the face and Newton went "Hmmm I didn't like that. All people must not like that. Also, God."

I couldn't even get through the initial reaction from him. I wish people like this would just go away. Just breeding hate for no reason.

Religious liberty? My religion allows gay people. Those people don't get a piece of that liberty, or what?

[polak]

I can't wait for the day where an openly atheist president is elected. I hope these hardcore rights are still around.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Why are you subjecting us to irrelevant tweets from the leader of a designated hate group?

Because it's worth pointing out how insane these people are. And that there are a lot of them out there. It doesn't take much to look. That's my biggest concern here is that the insane Christians of America will band together for the next election and put Ted Cruz or Mike Huckabee in office, and then God is running America. They can absolutely win an election if they can get the crazies to the polls.

[rubecube]

Now maybe Australia can also join the rest of the civilized world.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Because it's worth pointing out how insane these people are. And that there are a lot of them out there. It doesn't take much to look. That's my biggest concern here is that the insane Christians of America will band together for the next election and put Ted Cruz or Mike Huckabee in office, and then God is running America. They can absolutely win an election if they can get the crazies to the polls.

You say that like it's not already the case.

Until a Presidential candidate can openly say "I don't believe in God" and still hold a shot in hell at winning, this will be the case.

[CaptainCrunch]

So procedural question, because I'm unsure of how the courts work. But even with the supreme court ruling, can't the States individual argue that this should be a State regulated issue and fight it individually in their own State supreme court by asking for a States ruling on whether this is something that should be decided federally or by the State.

I'm just trying to understand how this is going to work or if this is the end.

Oh and HockeyIlliterate.

Lumping in homosexually with pedophiles and Polygamists who also tend to take on vulnerable childbrides borders on 50's thinking and is just really wrong.

[DiracSpike]

Man, politics in the States is whack. At least here when we debate left vs right it's usually based on economic policies that have nuance and good arguments can be made for both sides.

Elections in the US seem to always come down to stupid social wedge issues that should be obvious like allowing gay marriage and not letting people buy assualt weapons that can be shipped to their house. If you had any kind of progressive social conscience you would really have to believe in the GOP's economic platforms and plug your nose when voting for them, goddamn.

Also Huckabee is a gigantic dumbass.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

can't the States individual argue that this should be a State regulated issue and fight it individually in their own State supreme court by asking for a States ruling on whether this is something that should be decided federally or by the State.

The answer is no. The time to make that argument was before the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court has ruled, its ruling is now the law of the United States.

Any such attempt would be illegal. Arguably treasonous? Less sure of the latter.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Because it's worth pointing out how insane these people are. And that there are a lot of them out there.

There really aren't though, and the only reason it seems like there are is because they yell bat#### crazy things and people repeat it and post it and write news articles about it.

There are a large number of Americans who don't agree that gay marriage should be legalized. There is almost no one who thinks it's anything but disgusting to compare this to 9/11.

[polak]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

There are a large number of Americans who don't agree that gay marriage should be legalized..

That's bad enough.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

One of these things is not like the other!

One of these things, is not the same!

hockey may not be the only thing they're illiterate in

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by polak

That's bad enough.

Sure, but I know people who have the same opinion who aren't monsters. They're ignorant and I think on this point obviously on the wrong side of history, but that's a very different thing than being the heir apparent to Fred Phelps.