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Old 06-04-2015, 09:27 PM   #141
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Yeah, imagine that, getting all butthurt after having been cheated out of progressing in the tournament by a drug smuggler.
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Womens World Cup - Canada vs USA Final, and that absolutely atrocious penalty award, for keeper holding the ball "too long".

Are we still saying that Norwegian referee was simply incompetent?
Or did ol Warner pay her off.
To be fair that was a semi-final game in the London Olympics.
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I can think of many scenarios in the late '00s where Canada seemed to get BS calls against them in Gold Cup and WC Qualifying.
I'm starting to wonder now too. I forget the WC qualifying cycle, but we had a brutal offside call against us bring everything crashing down.

I'm hopeful that some element of it is that Canada refuses to play the game with CONCACAF and FIFA. That would be kind of awesome, especially if FIFA gets wiped out.
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Old 06-05-2015, 11:18 AM   #144
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Yeah, the Irish got screwed and everyone knew about it; if that was the other way around, I'm sure there would've been Platini and the FFF successfully lobbying backdoor channels/Blatter at FIFA, in getting a replay of the game. Getting to the World cup means mean much more than $5m Euros to the various football federations, nevermind having a minnow in (IRE) vs the French as 2006 runners up and all its FIFA political pull, out. And recall, France was then a disgrace at WC2010....scoring one goal against South Africa crashing out in 3 games, and then having a mutiny.

While there may not be FIFA-levels of corruption, that's not to say CONCACAF, especially with Warner in the mix, had its own questionable practices. Poor officiating or not, this was one of the worst calls I've seen...

Gold Cup semi finals in '07.


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^I was mistaken, not WC qualifying, this is the one I remember. Awful. Just awful.
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Old 06-05-2015, 03:50 PM   #146
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The Irish case sounds more like a settlement to avoid litigation than corruption.
Regardless what way you look at it, it was hush money. Money that should never have been accepted or at the very least been declared publicly at the time. In fact Delaney and the FAI should have been screaming from the heavens that they were being paid off.

The FAI looks as bad as FIFA on this one. And hopefully this spells the end of Delaney also. Basically admitted that he allowed FIFA to pay him off.

This is a great week for Roy Keane, first Jack Warner and now Delaney under the spotlight.
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Next up for scrutiny. Germany.

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The German newspaper Die Zeit reported on Friday that the then chancellor Gerhard Shröder supplied arms to Saudi Arabia in return for support in Germany’s World Cup bid, in which it defeated South Africa 12-11 in the final round in controversial circumstances. The claims alleged that the government lifted arms restrictions days before the vote in order to make the shipment and help swing Saudi Arabia’s vote to Germany.
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Old 06-05-2015, 09:24 PM   #148
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That German bid was always a little fishy with that New Zealand dude abstaining.
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Old 06-05-2015, 10:47 PM   #149
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Regardless what way you look at it, it was hush money. Money that should never have been accepted or at the very least been declared publicly at the time. In fact Delaney and the FAI should have been screaming from the heavens that they were being paid off.

The FAI looks as bad as FIFA on this one. And hopefully this spells the end of Delaney also. Basically admitted that he allowed FIFA to pay him off.

This is a great week for Roy Keane, first Jack Warner and now Delaney under the spotlight.
Keane? He only played -- what did he do?
(leaving USA WC? water on the bridge -- long ago)

(unless you mean his comment about United fans haha)
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Keane has absolutely zero time for Delaney, before and even more since the Saipan walk out and Warner he clashed with whilst manager of Sunderland over Dwight Yorke.

Diplomatic as ever.
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Keane has already spoken to Warner on the phone. "I think Jack Warner must be small because he's got small-man syndrome," he said. "I told him he was a disgrace and that I would not employ him. The man is a clown. I told him what I thought of him and where he should go.
"Although he's working for Trinidad and Tobago he's writing under Fifa letterheads, trying to impress everybody. Forget all this talk about directors of football - if he's vice-president of Fifa, God help everybody. He's obviously quick to let people know he's in a position of power. But sometimes these people get up the ladder and I don't know how."
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Keane has absolutely zero time for Delaney, before and even more since the Saipan walk out and Warner he clashed with whilst manager of Sunderland over Dwight Yorke.

Diplomatic as ever.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/....premierleague
Looks like those comments are from 2008, but I personally, don't mind what he said.
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Germans don't mess around. Everyone else paid money, bought someone a vacation property, the Germans give weapons.

I would not be surprised if most of the bids in the last 15-20 years have had some sort of back room deal to help swing votes in favour of someone.
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Looks like those comments are from 2008, but I personally, don't mind what he said.
Yeah, they are. He was asked yesterday at the ROI training camp about Delaney and Warner and was quite quiet (for the moment) on the matter.

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Alas, not even the open goal provided by Warner’s exposure shook Keane out of the boring, diplomatic routine. “I’ve had issues with everybody,” said Ireland’s assistant manager, again with a smile. He was clearly enjoying swerving the issue. But, as Delaney must know only too well, Keane won’t swerve it forever.
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If the Republic of Ireland accepted money they should be banned for future tournaments

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Yeah, they are. He was asked yesterday at the ROI training camp about Delaney and Warner and was quite quiet (for the moment) on the matter.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...i-john-delaney
Ahh!! I wonder if he's keeping quiet so as not to burn bridges with the FAI, and ensure he's employable?

And the comment above about banning them?
That is completely illogical. A couple executives should be punished internally by the FAI, but punishing the nation and players for not fulfilling an appeal "appropriately"?

Lol get out
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Germans don't mess around. Everyone else paid money, bought someone a vacation property, the Germans give weapons.

I would not be surprised if most of the bids in the last 15-20 years have had some sort of back room deal to help swing votes in favour of someone.
That looks to be almost guaranteed, apparently you dont get votes unless you give them something. Its as though their normal paycheques were insufficiently satisfying.
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I would not be surprised if most of the bids in the last 15-20 years have had some sort of back room deal to help swing votes in favour of someone.
It's not a matter of did bribery occur but a question of how much took place? Also, I reckon it goes back further than 20 years.


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FIFA is guilty of a ton of crimes and improper procedures but this does look more like an out of court settlement to avoid the negative press surrounding a court case that FIFA probably would have won fairly easily. If RoI is going to be banned for taking anti-nuisance money, it would set a precedent where Canada would make the next World Cup with the amount of nations that would have to be banned. However, we probably didn't get the Womens World Cup by being squeaky clean...
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Ahh!! I wonder if he's keeping quiet so as not to burn bridges with the FAI, and ensure he's employable?
Trust me on this one. Keane could care less about the FAI. He's got a HUGE axe to grind with Delaney and if there is one thing we do know about him he will harbour resentments and grudges. He's only kept quiet for the moment as there is a game coming up. I'm guessing Martin O'Neill has asked him to hold his horses.

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And the comment above about banning them?
That is completely illogical. A couple executives should be punished internally by the FAI, but punishing the nation and players for not fulfilling an appeal "appropriately"?

Lol get out
This is Scottish Flame we are talking about. Bigotry is not based on logic.

I will retract one thing though and that is my comment that the FAI should have made it clear at the time. Turns out there was a confidentiality clause in the agreement and the only reason they are mentioning it now is because it was leaked by someone else.

I don't get what the appeal would have been anyways. It was a ref error and as said in the preamble the ref's decision is final.

Here is the agreement between the two organisations.
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. However, we probably didn't get the Womens World Cup by being squeaky clean...
I thought they were one of two applicants and the other (Zimbabwe) withdrew theirs later?
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Trust me on this one. Keane could care less about the FAI. He's got a HUGE axe to grind with Delaney and if there is one thing we do know about him he will harbour resentments and grudges. He's only kept quiet for the moment as there is a game coming up. I'm guessing Martin O'Neill has asked him to hold his horses.

This is Scottish Flame we are talking about. Bigotry is not based on logic.

I will retract one thing though and that is my comment that the FAI should have made it clear at the time. Turns out there was a confidentiality clause in the agreement and the only reason they are mentioning it now is because it was leaked by someone else.

I don't get what the appeal would have been anyways. It was a ref error and as said in the preamble the ref's decision is final.

Here is the agreement between the two organisations.
http://www.documentcloud.org/documen...ocument-1.html

I thought they were one of two applicants and the other (Zimbabwe) withdrew theirs later?
Generally people who call people bigots are the real bigots themselves. I stand by that ROI should be punished if they accepted money as should every other country.

Would also make Scotland's qualifying much easier
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However, we probably didn't get the Womens World Cup by being squeaky clean...
While thats a good point in light of recent evidence, but I dont think too many people were clamoring to host this particular event.

I think Canada's hosting intentions are genuine as opposed to 'raking in the Benjamins.'
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