CP Mafia 4 - The Unknown Host - Game Over!

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

Here's squiggs vote. Talks about ECF, then Lego and Peanut, mentions bizarro and then right at the end votes for me. Seems like a good way of saying a lot but not actually writing why he voted for me.

That's been the knock on you by multiple people in this game, so I don't mind you trying it out on me. My vote was very clear, but just in case I'll walk you through it.

1. I can't get any support for a Lego or Peanut lynch. Literally no one wants to help out.
2. I won't vote for HG.
3. I won't vote for ECF.
4. I believe a lot of what ECF says, but I'm not willing to vote for bizarro.
5. I want to stop the ECF lynch. The best way for me to stop it with the remaining options is voting mrkajz.
6. My vote for mrkajz is me voting to keep both of HG and ECF in the game. If there were support for another I can be talked into it. I really don't want to side with Peanut or Lego on this vote, so mrkajz is the only one left.

Any questions?

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

Timbo knows I haven't been a big fan of him from the beginning, and again he jumps in as a middle vote, which I think is a huge scum tell. He talks about bizarro, ECF, and then Diss, but (like Squiggs) just votes for me at the end.

I don't know quite what is going on here, but I can't help feel like two of these three are scum (personally feel Timbo and HG), and they decided they needed another front runner to challenge HG at the top of the voting. The sudden votes just don't make sense otherwise.

You have it backwards, I haven't been a big fan of yours.
Everything about you is wrong I have pointed this out repeatedly.

You lurk you drive by post you summarize and go in circular directions. You say you are busy then you say how come there is no activity? You have like what 38 posts?

You are dirty.

[devo22]

I won't switch my vote to ECF or HG at this point either. I didn't expect that kind of death post from ECF and it makes me believe that he maybe is town after all. As for HG, I like squiggs' thinking (keeping HG and Diss around for further discussion on day 4), plus it seems it's too late for a good death post as well.

I'll either keep my vote for mrkajz or switch to Lego if there's support.

[mrkajz44]

Squiggs, I appreciate the response, but its a bit of a bummer I'm basically getting a vote as you don't want to vote for the other candidates.

Timbo, yes I am busy at work and try to check in when I can. You'll notice most of my posts are of decent length, putting enough discussion into one post that many people don't put in 5. At this point, I think low post count isn't a great reason for a vote.

I truly think HG has pulled another fast one on the town and steered the ship again. I am worried he will continue to pop into the thread, pound out 3 or 4 points nearly in a row and turn the tide of whole conversations.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by East Coast Flame

I’m not going to be around much today, so consider this my death post.

I’ve had a bad feeling about the 3 people that have been anointed “confirmed town”: Puxlut, Oling and Seb. The ONLY people who are confirmed town at this point in the game are Active and Girly

Wait, who's really confirmed me as town? SebC trusts me, most others seem to just not think I'm scum.

No one countered claim Puxlut. Obviously there's no way that the Genetic Anomaly could be turned at this point, had they received the spore on Night 0, they would have countered my claim on Day 2. So the Genetic Anomaly is passenger, and if they continued to hide while we confirmed Puxlut as town, they really messed up. We have to assume Puxlut is the Genetic Anomaly at this point.

SebC's confirmation is a bit of metagame given what happened. If you have reasons not to assume that either are town, why not give them? SebC could be turned tomorrow, as could anyone but Puxlut, so the free pass you're worried about doesn't seem like a big concern to me.

[Oling_Roachinen]

I'm going the direct opposite strategy as SebC, as I feel it's best to get stuff out in case we are turned. This isn't so much to do with why or if someone is a host, but potential links to one another if that ends up being the case.

Lego Man and Hockeyguy15. Hockeyguy15 was quick to pick up on mistakes made by others, but didn't focus on the XXX at all. Lego Man's long post also came as Hockeyguy15 was gaining traction, and while he didn't outright support him, he did post reasons why he didn't think he was Host:

Originally Posted by Lego Man

Hockeyguy15 - looking back on Day 2, I actually disagree with most of what HG was going on about, and actually rereading all his posts from Day2 is a bit maddening. I'm a bit annoyed of HG, but I feel as though that's a town characteristic. Every time I open this thread I flip flop on HG allegiance, but until he gets proven scum... I'll always lean 60/40 for him being town.

Also, I don't think scum would risk with such an absolute and arrogant stance... post 642... it's just asking for trouble - which he's getting now.
I disagree.
I think Girly is just a turned vanilla passenger, I'm 100% sure of it. Had she said right away she was not turned I would agree that we let the agent handle it since we wouldn't know if she was lying or not. Since she is turned she is now working with the hosts and for all intents and purposes she is against us.
She is a threat to us winning, and she is an extra vote that can sway a lynch the way the hosts want. She is the sure thing in my mind, more so than anyone's arguments for a host.

Bizaro86 and East Coast Flame. When I suggested that East Coast Flame and Dissentowner were my favourites for most inconspicuous posters Bizaro86 was quick to agree but made a case, and voted for, Dissentowner. I think their back and forth could be a contrived deceit.

Timbo and mrkajz44, or potentially Timbo and Squiggs96. Similiarly I think Timbo and mrkajz44's accusations against one another may have been fabricated to draw distance between one another. Squiggs96 casting that GirlySports vote to keep her in range of hammer may have been to prevent any last second shift to Timbo.

[GirlySports]

Vote Count

With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes on any one player to hammer. It takes 5 votes to deadline lynch.


Voted:
Hockeyguy15 (4): Party Elephant, mrkajz44, dissentowner, Puxlut
East Coast Flame (4): GGG, SebC, Oling_Roachinen, bizaro86
mrkajz44 (4): devo22, Hockeyguy15, squiggs96, Timbo
Timbo (1): Peanut
Party Elephant (1): Lego Man
bizaro86 (1): East Coast Flame

The deadline is Friday, June 5th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Bizaro86 and East Coast Flame. When I suggested that East Coast Flame and Dissentowner were my favourites for most inconspicuous posters Bizaro86 was quick to agree but made a case, and voted for, Dissentowner. I think their back and forth could be a contrived deceit.

bizaro was the 4th vote today for ECF. Highly doubt they work together, that's too risky.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by devo22

bizaro was the 4th vote today for ECF. Highly doubt they work together, that's too risky.

GirlySports, Puxlut and SebC have all named East Coast Flame as a target. That's three, more or less (in my mind), confirmed townies. If they were right, the host may be willing to sacrifice East Coast Flame as the pressure is on. Again though, this only matters to me at all if any of them do flip scum.

But interesting enough, you didn't comment on Timbo adding that fourth for Mrkajz44.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by devo22

bizaro was the 4th vote today for ECF. Highly doubt they work together, that's too risky.

same with Timbo and mrkj...whatever that name is.

[Lego Man]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

GirlySports, Puxlut and SebC have all named East Coast Flame as a target. That's three, more or less (in my mind), confirmed townies. If they were right, the host may be willing to sacrifice East Coast Flame as the pressure is on. Again though, this only matters to me at all if any of them do flip scum.

But interesting enough, you didn't comment on Timbo adding that fourth for Mrkajz44.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

But interesting enough, you didn't comment on Timbo adding that fourth for Mrkajz44.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

same with Timbo and mrkj...whatever that name is.

yeah thanks I missed that. Just immediately thought of the bizaro vote for ECF when I read Olings post because ECF basically said "now bizaro will surely come and vote for me too" which is exactly what did happen.

[Timbo]

Is the fourth vote special or something? Seriously like WTF?

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by devo22

bizaro was the 4th vote today for ECF. Highly doubt they work together, that's too risky.

Yeah, I definitely don't want to be linked with ECF. I'm genuinely voting for him, and when I voted for him that pushed him into a tie with HG. No way a scum team would do that. If he flips scum, I'll be thrilled. I'd encourage everyone to consider the three people who are tied. I think ECF is the most likely to be scum of the three, he is sort of the anti-HG, and I think he is doing it to try and slide by as a scum.

[Timbo]

The weirdest thing about ECF IMO was a death post with 3 votes against him?

[Lego Man]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

[*]My vote for mrkajz is me voting to keep both of HG and ECF in the game. If there were support for another I can be talked into it. I really don't want to side with Peanut or Lego on this vote, so mrkajz is the only one left.

Well... my list from a few pages ago has devo22, mrkajz44, PartyElephant, ECF, and Timbo.

So maybe I'll vote for mrkajz44. THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO SIDE WITH ME!

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by Lego Man

Well... my list from a few pages ago has devo22, mrkajz44, PartyElephant, ECF, and Timbo.

So maybe I'll vote for mrkajz44. THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO SIDE WITH ME!

Noooooooooo!

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by Timbo

Is the fourth vote special or something? Seriously like WTF?

Fourth vote is somewhat scummy usually because the voting "train" has already started and its easier to say it wasn't your idea.

Also, in this case, the fourth vote is bad because it takes 5 to lynch, so you are putting someone in a tough spot, but not being the final vote (again, to say, well I didn't actually push them over the edge sort of thing)

[Lego Man]

unvote

vote: mrkajz44

[Lego Man]

I hate death posts - they confuse the hell out of me. ECF's death post seems townish - it could be a bluff but with the weekend approaching, he could be packing it in and that's not a good sign for the town. Won't vote for him now, well at least after the death post. And yeah, after only three posts against him - like Timbo mentioned. I think that's the weekend talking.

HG is going camping, but is also pushing us to vote him out which makes me suspicious. I'd say this is more likely a bluff that ECF. HG posting style is hard to digest sometimes.

LOL @ SebC not sharing his analysis of ECF vote?! Regardless of what ECF flips, it's a weird play.