2014/2015 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

When I look at our roster I think we are still shy 2 top 6 wingers. I just go ahead and have Monahan and Bennett as our top 2 centers (Bennett will be that good next year). Then we have Gaudreau and Hudler.

We could just see if Colborne can take another step, hope Jones gets back to being a 20+ goal scorer, hope Bouma takes another step, or a guy like Porier jumps right in.

My view of the team is if we can land 2 top 6 wingers and a #3 Dman this team will be a contender for home ice in the first round no matter what any of the other teams in our division do

Ferly bird....hoping he can hit his ceiling as 2nd line LW with size, speed and skill.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by heep223

Ferly bird....hoping he can hit his ceiling as 2nd line LW with size, speed and skill.

With the two centre/winger combinations mentioned, I would really want some heft like Ferland or Bouma on the other wing. Colborne could fit the bill as well.

Really, top lines are often two really good or elite players and another guy who can keep up, but is maybe less skilled (and can often provide muscle). Trottier and Bossy had Gillies. You have Getzlaf/Perry, Toews/Kane these days, with whoever the coach wants to throw in with them.

[handgroen]

I should start by saying i would not be disappointed in the least if the flames just stood pat throughout this off-season. Very deeply satisfied with the results last year and the direction of the franchise. feels good man...

that being said i think that the summer will yield some seismic shifts for the roster going forward. the whole league is somewhat volatile with the cap situation being what it is, and the flames are positioned perfectly to make deals with leverage.

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I get that people dislike Nash, and I don't want the Flames to give up young assets to trade for him, but....

...the guy has scored 30 or more goals in 8 of his last 10 FULL NHL seasons, including 42 this past season. Very few players score goals like he does. Let's not act like he's a total trash player.

Not sure if Nash in particular is the answer, and he does have a no-trade, but it would be pretty cool to see the flames with a bonafide scoring threat to flank sam bennett through his rookie year. If you're the kind of guy who buys into the pairs of forwards sticking together theory. it would be pretty cool to send
monahan-gaudreau
bennett-nash
backlund-bouma
over the boards, game after game.

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Believe Nash has a ntc or nmc so doubt he would waive to come here. When he left Columbus he was very selective as to where he would go and we weren't on his list.

yeah but have a look at this
http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/20
2/3 of that roster has a no-trade clause, and the rangers will need to do something.

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Friedman still doesn't think 100% that Hiller or Ramo will back with the Flames next season.

Lots of goalies available. He said you can get Kari Lehtonen for 30 cents on the dollar.

Seems to think it is a buyer's market for goalies this offseason.

5.9M for the next three seasons 31 yrs old deal expires at age 34. actually not over the hill for a goalie. I could see the flames trading hiller and his 1 year 4.5M deal for lehtonen and one of their defensive prospects.(they do have a glut of them)

making a move like this would;
be a wash in terms of performance from your veteran goalie,
adds a prospect of your choosing, a few years removed from being drafted and thus further ahead in development, shores up an area of organizational weakness,
and does not compromise the future of the team.(no assets expended, still room for ortio, gillies, and macdonald to jockey for a job.)

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Friedman still doesn't think 100% that Hiller or Ramo will back with the Flames next season.

Lots of goalies available. He said you can get Kari Lehtonen for 30 cents on the dollar.

Seems to think it is a buyer's market for goalies this offseason.

Is Dallas looking to get some cap space, and if so, willing to swap 1sts (they draft at 12th) to do so?

[Da_Chief]

I think if Lehtonen gets moved then Nill is likely eyeing Howard out of Detroit.

I'd take a flyer on Lehtonen. Hiller for Lehtonen, re-sign Ramo and you have Kari & Kari show.

[DionTheDman]

Isn't Ortio all but guaranteed to be up this year though?

[sureLoss]

According to Dreger, Dougie Hamilton is looking for $6 to $7 million per year

When you're looking at Dougie Hamilton, his agents are looking at something that's probably going to mirror (Alex) Pietrangelo or (Drew) Doughty. So upwards of $6-6.5-7 million per year ... I think Boston would love to keep him. But there's a salary cap issue, as we know, in Boston. And if you're a rival team, why wouldn't you try?

I know the Bruins brought him in and they have high hopes of him kind of one day taking over from Zdeno Chara. But Dougie Hamilton could be the poster boy for that sort of scenario. Not saying it's going to happen, of course, but offer sheets in offseason are always tempting.

[Imported_Aussie]

If someone is going to offer sheet, I would expect it would have to be a big one - say 36M over 5 years (7.2M cap hit).
If the 6-7M range is what Hamilton wants, expect GMs to be calling Boston offering "2015 1st round pick +" packages.
Would #15, #53 and a player (Wotherspoon, Granlund, etc.) start a conversation?

Normally I would not advocate making a splash trade this early in the rebuild, but players like Hamilton do no come around often, and Hamilton + Brodie would be a foundation for the next 5 years and beyond

[868904]

Originally Posted by Imported_Aussie

If someone is going to offer sheet, I would expect it would have to be a big one - say 36M over 5 years (7.2M cap hit).
If the 6-7M range is what Hamilton wants, expect GMs to be calling Boston offering "2015 1st round pick +" packages.
Would #15, #53 and a player (Wotherspoon, Granlund, etc.) start a conversation?

Normally I would not advocate making a splash trade this early in the rebuild, but players like Hamilton do no come around often, and Hamilton + Brodie would be a foundation for the next 5 years and beyond

If the Flames called about a trade, you can bet the asking price will be one of Johnny, Mony, or Bennett. The 15, 53, and a 2nd rate prospect won't even come close.

As for the threat of an offer sheet, Bruins would match any offer and dump any other contract to keep Hamilton. He is their franchise player right now.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DionTheDman

Isn't Ortio all but guaranteed to be up this year though?

Yes. Friedman was suggesting both Hiller and Ramo would be gone.

[Roof-Daddy]

I think that no matter what you give Hamilton in an offer sheet, the Bruins will match.

No matter what. They aren't letting him go IMO.

They will make cap space some other way, before letting their #1 Dman for the next 10-15 years go.

[GioforPM]

Friedman also suggested that offer sheets would be mainly to mess with other teams' caps. This seems like something only the dicks of the league would do, and for sure not Burke.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Friedman still doesn't think 100% that Hiller or Ramo will back with the Flames next season.

Lots of goalies available. He said you can get Kari Lehtonen for 30 cents on the dollar.

Seems to think it is a buyer's market for goalies this offseason.

Interesting that Lehtonen was Hartley's goalie in Atlanta. I don't know if he's actually an improvement on Hiller or Ramo though.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by getbak

Interesting that Lehtonen was Hartley's goalie in Atlanta. I don't know if he's actually an improvement on Hiller or Ramo though.

He might be an improvement in that his contract extends beyond this year.

With his injury history, it's likely that Lehtonen and Ortio as a tandem would see Ortio in 25-30 games.

[Toonage]

Not sure Hartley would want to coach Lehtonen again. I know he isn't the same player and matured in Dallas, but Calgary is better off with the devil they know in either Hiller or Ramo to go alongside Ortio than taking that particular risk.

[Robo]

so are we going to be targetting bostons first round pick for a salary dump this year? if they lose hamilton ouch

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Robo

so are we going to be targetting bostons first round pick for a salary dump this year? if they lose hamilton ouch

I'd prefer targeting Hamilton.

[dammage79]

32 year old Lehtonen in 65 starts: .904 SV% 2.94 GAA.

I'd take ward over Lehtonen easy.

[Vinny01]

Of all the RFA's Hamikton certainly would be the best fit for the Flames. Toffoli, and Saad also would fit nicely but if we are giving up huge assets a top Dman would be the piece that fits the bill.

Notnsure we could outbid the Oilers for his services though. They could offer Yak, 16, 33, Klefbom/Marincin

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Friedman also suggested that offer sheets would be mainly to mess with other teams' caps. This seems like something only the dicks of the league would do, and for sure not Burke.

While I don't see us doing it I can see a division rival like Toronto doing it. Sure the Bruins will match but now you are forcing them into struggling immediately with a cap situation. That is not being a dick, that is smart managing.