06-01-2015, 04:29 PM
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#1501
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
I'm not a Crouse fan either, but would be just fine drafting him if he fell to 15.
However, I would not be okay with trading up to select him.
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That's pretty much how I feel about Crouse. If he falls to 15, I wouldn't be opposed to choosing him. He'd be a great player to have when we play against the Ducks and LA. That, and he has some decent chemistry with Sam B.
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06-01-2015, 04:40 PM
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#1502
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
That's pretty much how I feel about Crouse. If he falls to 15, I wouldn't be opposed to choosing him. He'd be a great player to have when we play against the Ducks and LA. That, and he has some decent chemistry with Sam B.
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Yeah, I have to agree. I wouldn't spend much in terms of assets in order to move up to get him. I certainly wouldn't use any of the 2nd rounders as leverage.
There's so much depth in this draft that we could be getting 4 blue chip prospects in the 1st 2 rounds.
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06-01-2015, 05:53 PM
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#1503
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: The Armpit of BC: Trail
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
That's exactly what i said. We should not have drafted Gaudreau. And attributing that quote "might not transfer the the NHL". That is kind of putting words in someone's mouth right? Do you always create stuff out of thin air and go to extremes? Come on.
Connor at 15 could be a solid pickup, but video of kid dangling around crap opposition and going through cones doesn't exactly do it for me.
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Pretty sure that would be a yard sale in the AHL or NHL is saying it might not transfer to the NHL. Arguing it isn't is just a matter of semantics.
Connor is playing in the NCAA, isn't he? So he is playing against full grown men, not just kids in the CHL. Dangling a 22 year old man, or older, is a lot harder than an 18 or 19 year old kid. To me that is a lot more impressive than someone like Crouse playing with a physical advantage over more than half of his opposition.
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06-01-2015, 06:09 PM
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#1504
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trailer Fire
Pretty sure that would be a yard sale in the AHL or NHL is saying it might not transfer to the NHL. Arguing it isn't is just a matter of semantics.
Connor is playing in the NCAA, isn't he? So he is playing against full grown men, not just kids in the CHL. Dangling a 22 year old man, or older, is a lot harder than an 18 or 19 year old kid. To me that is a lot more impressive than someone like Crouse playing with a physical advantage over more than half of his opposition.
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Connor played in the USHL last season, but has committed to Michigan in the NCAA next season.
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06-01-2015, 06:54 PM
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#1505
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: The Armpit of BC: Trail
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Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
Connor played in the USHL last season, but has committed to Michigan in the NCAA next season.
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I stand corrected.
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06-01-2015, 07:29 PM
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#1506
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The C-spot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
That's pretty much how I feel about Crouse. If he falls to 15, I wouldn't be opposed to choosing him. He'd be a great player to have when we play against the Ducks and LA. That, and he has some decent chemistry with Sam B.
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If you get Shane Doan, as someone recently suggested, you take him and laugh all the way to the bank. That said, Doan was well over a PPG in his draft year.
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06-01-2015, 09:33 PM
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#1507
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by Five-hole
If you get Shane Doan, as someone recently suggested, you take him and laugh all the way to the bank. That said, Doan was well over a PPG in his draft year.
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I think people should not take into account the point totals, especially on a team like Kingston who weren't as good as they should've been, wasn't until Bennett came and teared it up with Crouse where he started to really get some attention. Of course we'd be laughing to the bank, Crouse was considered a top 5 prospect at one point. He's still a high risk, but for the Sam B. connection and size alone makes it an easy risk to take for the Flames.
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06-02-2015, 11:43 AM
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#1508
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First Line Centre
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Interesting that Craig Button has Brock Boeser ranked 9th in his list, but he appears much lower in other lists, and not even in the first round at all in some. Anyone know anything about him?
The other intriguing one for me is Jeremy Bracco, who could go late in the first round or fall all the way to us at #45.
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06-02-2015, 11:55 AM
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#1509
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azzarish
Interesting that Craig Button has Brock Boeser ranked 9th in his list, but he appears much lower in other lists, and not even in the first round at all in some. Anyone know anything about him?
The other intriguing one for me is Jeremy Bracco, who could go late in the first round or fall all the way to us at #45.
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Craig Button - Nov 15, 2014
TSN 1260
https://soundcloud.com/pipeline-show/craig-button-nov14
RW Brock Boeser
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=248381- unique player, reminds Button of Jamie Langenbrunner in terms of effort
- a lot of players after they get into position need to get their hands set to shoot
- Boeser sets his hands while he is getting into position, which makes it difficult for goaltenders to adjust/react to his shot (real unique skill)
- big time competitor
- scores goals multiple ways - off the attack, off the cycle, by posting up
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Craig Button
TSN 1260 - March 14
https://soundcloud.com/pipeline-show/craig-button-mar14
RW Brock Boeser - 6'1'' 192lbs
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=248381
continually shows he has big time NHL talent
he is unique in that he can create offensive opportunities in many ways
he can do it with power, he can do it with playmaking - really smart player and he has a really good finishing touch
he can score in tight, he can score from 30 feet, he can score off the rush, he can score off the cycle
players have to get their hands set to shoot. a lot of players will set their hands to shoot only after they get into position. Boeser's hands are always set to shoot. That always beats the goaltenders.
Last guy to remind Button of Boeser's hands is Mike Bossy
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Basically Craig Button thinks Boeser will become an elite goal scorer in the NHL. The other lists are not as optimistic.
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06-02-2015, 01:28 PM
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#1510
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The C-spot
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Intriguing prospect. If Craig is that high on him I'm sure some team somewhere likes him too. That is, seems unlikely to fall to 45, but if he does he seems like a steal at that spot.
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06-02-2015, 01:52 PM
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#1511
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First Line Centre
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Mike Bossy hands.. that's quite the compliment for Boeser.. 50-60 goals a season
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06-02-2015, 01:55 PM
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#1512
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Finding out about this boeser guy so close to draft reminds me of when janko started getting talked about.
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06-02-2015, 02:01 PM
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#1513
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azzarish
The other intriguing one for me is Jeremy Bracco, who could go late in the first round or fall all the way to us at #45.
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Would love if Bracco fell that low, but i'm not holding out much hope.
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
Finding out about this boeser guy so close to draft reminds me of when janko started getting talked about.
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...Button's been high on Boeser since December.
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06-02-2015, 02:58 PM
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#1514
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Wish things would hurry up. Kind of feel like Cartman wanting a nintendo WII right now. Just put me into cryo stasis until draft day.
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06-02-2015, 03:13 PM
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#1515
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azzarish
Interesting that Craig Button has Brock Boeser ranked 9th in his list, but he appears much lower in other lists, and not even in the first round at all in some. Anyone know anything about him?
The other intriguing one for me is Jeremy Bracco, who could go late in the first round or fall all the way to us at #45.
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Boeser is 14th in THN's draft guide, not that I put much stock into their rankings.
Given Button's bloodlines, Boeser is certainly a guy the Flames may like.
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06-02-2015, 03:31 PM
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#1516
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Lifetime Suspension
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So Cox's list has this prospect at 15:
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15. (16) Filip Chlapik, C, Charlottetown (QMJHL) 6-1, 196 High skill, high hockey IQ, but a slightly unusual skating stride. Scored 75 points in 64 games. He’s a bigger version of David Krejci.
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No one interested in him? Bigger version of Krejci. Sounds good to me. Can you ever have too many centres?
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06-02-2015, 03:42 PM
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#1517
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Igster
So Cox's list has this prospect at 15:
No one interested in him? Bigger version of Krejci. Sounds good to me. Can you ever have too many centres?
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IMO no, you sure can't.
Look at any Team Canada roster. Always chock full of centers, they just move some to the wing.
As we've learned here in CGY recently, the opposite is not likely to be done successfully.
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06-02-2015, 03:56 PM
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#1518
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Igster
So Cox's list has this prospect at 15:
No one interested in him? Bigger version of Krejci. Sounds good to me. Can you ever have too many centres?
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12 unless you want them to play backup or defense.
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06-02-2015, 04:23 PM
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#1520
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I see Boeser as this years Alex Tuch. Went 18th OA last year in a weaker draft. Maybe a slightly lesser version of Tuch.
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