After watching this, I don't know how we pass on this kid if he's available.
Fast, tenacious, good shot, solid frame... Seems like everything Treliving and Co would be looking for
That is pretty bad opposition. That goal at 49 seconds where he crosses in front of the net with defender going the other way. Pretty sure that would be a yard sale if he tried that in AHL or NHL.
That is pretty bad opposition. That goal at 49 seconds where he crosses in front of the net with defender going the other way. Pretty sure that would be a yard sale if he tried that in AHL or NHL.
Which people said about Pavel Datsyuk, Patrick Kane, and Johhny Gaudreau. Amongst others.
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I'm trying to think of a way Connor doesn't get drafted in the 14 places ahead of us, but I just can't think of one. Unless Chabot or someone else like Svechnikov gets taken early, but I doubt that too.
Would be a fantastic pick, and I would pick him over Merkley, Konecy every time. In fact, I would pick both Connor and Barzal over those 2, but the same thing applies with Barzal. I just don't see him dropping to #15.
If the Flames want Connor (and I have a sneaky suspicion he is high on their list), they are going to have to move up. What they have to determine is if it's worth giving something up to move to #11/12/13 that is significantly better than what they would get at #15.
are all players i would be pretty confident are going ahead of him. after that he's in the next tier with: Zacha, Svechnikov, Meier, Konecny and Merkley
I think he's gone by 15, but maybe we can make a deal with the panthers:
are all players i would be pretty confident are going ahead of him. after that he's in the next tier with: Zacha, Svechnikov, Meier, Konecny and Merkley
I think he's gone by 15, but maybe we can make a deal with the panthers:
To Florida:
15th OV
53rd OV
To Calgary:
11th OV
77th OV
If I was the GM of Florida, I am keeping my pick to either pick Rantanen or Meier.
13. (5) Lawson Crouse, LW, Kingston (OHL), 6-4, 215 He showed more finish at end of season once Sam Bennett returned from injury. Some see a Shane Doan-type. He has a big body, the question is will he score at NHL level?
Crouse is dropping down lists all over the place. I would be pretty excited if he dropped to 15...
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Whoa? He is like Datsyuk? And others too? We should draft him then and all of the others too.
So we shouldn't have drafted Gaudreau? Chicago shouldn't have taken Kane? All I'm trying to say is we not draft someone because a certain skill set "might not transfer the the NHL" because we simply don't know. I wouldn't be against taking a little risk with Connor.
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So we shouldn't have drafted Gaudreau? Chicago shouldn't have taken Kane? All I'm trying to say is we not draft someone because a certain skill set "might not transfer the the NHL" because we simply don't know. I wouldn't be against taking a little risk with Connor.
That's exactly what i said. We should not have drafted Gaudreau. And attributing that quote "might not transfer the the NHL". That is kind of putting words in someone's mouth right? Do you always create stuff out of thin air and go to extremes? Come on.
Connor at 15 could be a solid pickup, but video of kid dangling around crap opposition and going through cones doesn't exactly do it for me.
Crouse is dropping down lists all over the place. I would be pretty excited if he dropped to 15...
Yeah me too. His knock is he doesn't score much but maybe he just needs to get comfortable with his size. He was the only other 17 year old to play in the under 20s for Canada and that's a big deal for me.
“I don’t know that numbers and the stats are going to define the players in this range here,” Central Scouting director Dan Marr told 630 CHED’s Bob Stauffer shortly after the final rankings were released. “Lawson Crouse is arguably the strongest player in this draft and he’s such an excellent skater for his size. The thing we like about him is that every game, every shift, he’s doing something, you notice something… He’s this generation’s Cam Neely, and that’s what he can bring to a team.”
So, is Crouse really a top 10 pick? It's actually difficult to say, but his average upside is nearly identical to a group of players ranked a handful of picks below him. History also tells us that Crouse has the largest bust potential of the players I looked at too, with around 75% of CHL players that produce in a similar manner and who are of a similar size missing the NHL. His well-rounded game arguably gives him a greater than ~25% shot at becoming an NHLer, however it's tough to say how much this increases his chances as we have seen solid defensive projections amount to absolutely nothing before.
While I would totally agree that he's a risky pick in the top 10, I think picking him around 15 would be a steal. I won't get my hopes up.
I'm just not a Crouse fan at all. His point totals are completely underwhelming for someone ranked that high. I'd rather the Flames pick someone with a higher ceiling at 15th overall.
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I'm just not a Crouse fan at all. His point totals are completely underwhelming for someone ranked that high. I'd rather the Flames pick someone with a higher ceiling at 15th overall.
His ceiling is actually pretty reasonable (Lucic – 2nd line power forward). The main worry is that he has pretty high bust potential.
I really didn't like him before the WJC. He won me over there and through the last part of the season.
With how much emphasis there has been on finding prospects with both size and skill, and considering we need to compete with Anaheim and LA for the next gazillion years, I really think he would be the best fit. If he were to fall on draft day, that is.
